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ST. CROIX COUNTY COUNCIL ON AGING
Friday, March 14, 2008, 9:00 a.m.
County Board Room, St. Croix County Government Center
1101 Carmichael Road, Hudson, Wisconsin 54016
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
OLD AND NEW BUSINESS
1. Discussion regarding resignation of Director
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SUBMITTED BY Sue Nelson, Council on Aging Chair, Wednesday, March 12, 2008
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03/12/2008 11:19 AM
COUNCIL ON AGING MEETING
March 14, 2008
St. Croix County Government Center
CALL TO ORDER: Council Chairperson Nelson called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m. Pledge
of Allegiance was said.
ROLL CALL: Supervisors: Gerald Peterson; Councilmembers: Judy Harrison, Al Schrank, Inge
Bleier, Jeanette O'Connell, Vince Tubman, Olive Terpstra, and Sue Nelson. Also present were:
Department on Aging Director Kjersti L.O. Duncan; Community Outreach Coordinator Tracy
Davis; Administrative Assistant Renea Aeschliman; Elderly Benefit Specialist Liza Gibson; Clerical
Worker Cindy Ahrens; St. Croix County Administrative Coordinator Chuck Whiting; Regional
Area Agency on Aging Field Representative Dianne Rhein; Nutrition Program Managers: Vivian
Kemling, Faye Simone, and Sallie Dull; Marge Wolske, Art Jensen, Merlee Jensen, Irene Burch,
Rich Young, Sharon Fregine, Darlene Peterson, Marie Terkelsen, Viola Roquette, Willetta Breault,
Delores Vrieze, Pete Vrieze, Laura Rebhan, Mary Lou Smith, Rich Peterson, George Barringer,
Fran Moniken, Evelyn Thill, Al Kongshaug, Ed Velaski, and Howie Bleier. Absent members were
Supervisor Mortensen, Supervisor Grant, and Councilmember Bette Norman.
1. Resignation of St. Croix County Department on Aging Director:
Director Duncan expressed to the Council her reasons for resigning. She stated that the
decision was a very difficult one to make, but she feels it was the right choice. She clarified
that her decision was based on both professional and personal reasons. She stated that she is in
full support of the formation of an ADRC in St. Croix County; it is the right direction for the
Department on Aging and St. Croix County. There will not be Aging Units in the state of
Wisconsin; there will be ADRCs. ADRCs will not only benefit the elderly population in St.
Croix County, but the younger persons with disabilities as well. Currently, the Department on
Aging receives calls from people under the age of 60 in needed information, assistance, services
and support but we are not able to provide those services. Director Duncan expressed that she
respects the fact the Council on Aging and Health & Human Services Board fully supported the
Compact which merges the services historically provided by the Department on Aging into the
ADRC as a unit within Health & Human Services. She stated that the Council on Aging did an
excellent job advocating for the Council on Aging & Disabilities as a separate governing board
from the Health & Human Services Board. That governing board will help to hold individuals
and the ADRC accountable. She expressed she believes that having an Aging Unit separate
from the ADRC would not work. She also stated that, in St. Croix County, an ADRC separate
from Health & Human Services would not work.
She recognized that the timing of her resignation could be misinterpreted. She made a
commitment to write the application for the ADRC, and it would have been irresponsible to
have resigned prior to completing that task. After a great deal of work, the application was
submitted on Friday, February 29 Director Duncan stated she and her husband then went on
vacation allowing them space to discuss their situation beyond the specific circumstances at
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hand, but within the broader context of their lives. She expressed appreciation for his support in
this decision.
Director Duncan clarified that she did not resign because the ADRC Director position
would be open for other applicants. As a new unit and a new position, she stated she's
expressed full support of new positions being open for any interested parties to apply. This was
a stance she took often with the ADRC Ad Hoc committee with regards to the I &A Specialist
and Disability Benefit Specialist positions. Her opinion is that positions should not be shaped
around people, but that the best person should fill the position; it is only fair to the employee to
consider whether or not a job meets his/her professional goals and it is in management's best
interest to insure the right person/skill set/values are in the job.
Director Duncan also clarified that she is not resigning because the ADRC Director will
have to report to the Health & Human Services Director. She also understands and respects the
decision by the Finance Committee that this position will not be a Director's position, but a
Section Manager's position.
She reiterated that her reason for leaving was based on personal and professional
philosophies that she has identified as being different from St. Croix County as a culture and as
an organizational structure.
Director Duncan reiterated that she does not want her decision to hinder all the work that
has been done for the formation of the ADRC. She acknowledged the strong commitment
expressed in this process by Health & Human Services and the County Administrator to ensure
current Aging services will continue to be provided through the ADRC. The job of the ADRC
board members, and the Council on Aging & Disabilities, will be to ensure that those services
continue.
Chairperson Nelson asked if the ADRC application has been approved and if there will
still be a Council on Aging. Director Duncan stated that the application has not been approved
by the state, and the County Board has yet to approve a resolution regarding the formation of
the Council on Aging and Disability Board. A resolution to approve this new structure will go
before the County Board on March 18, 2008. If the resolution passes at that time, the new
Council on Aging & Disabilities will be appointed by the end of April and the process for hiring
an ADRC Director will begin. The Council on Aging will cease to meet once the Council on
Aging & Disabilities has been appointed. Applications are currently being sought from those
interested in serving on the Council on Aging & Disabilities.
Chairperson Nelson asked how sure Director Duncan was that the State would accept the
application. Director Duncan stated that she was very sure.
Chairperson Nelson questioned what involvement the local Senior Centers will have in
the Council on Aging & Disabilities. Director Duncan stated that having each of the Nutrition
Program Managers at the Council on Aging meetings is beneficial; however that requirement
will be up to the new ADRC Director. She pointed out that within the Compact there is a key
commitment that outlines the ability to form advisory committees that will report to the Council
on Aging & Disabilities; this could include a Nutrition Advisory Council. Director Duncan
also mentioned an attempt was made in the Compact to address the concern regarding County
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wide representation. To try and ensure this representation, the application for a Council on
Aging & Disabilities inquires into if a person has a relationship with a Senior Center. As the
Community Services Coordinator, Tracy Davis will continue to meet with the Senior Center
Boards every month to also keep lines of communication open.
Councilmember Schrank stated that he disagrees with Director Duncan's resignation. He
felt that it was a little premature since no one knows what will happen after the County Board
meeting on Tuesday. He also stated that he disagrees with the statement that the ADRC will
bring about improvements. He stated that Kjersti has been a great director and has led the
Department on Aging in the right direction. He hoped that she would reconsider and hates to
see her go.
Director Duncan restated that she believes the ADRC will bring improvements because it
will help people younger than 60 that the Department on Aging can not serve. She pointed out
that the Department on Aging is a strong department with a great commitment and dedication to
the elderly population. That service and support does not exist for persons under 60 in St. Croix
County unless they qualify for Medical Assistance, and even those folks face waiting lists.
The question was asked why there is a waiting list. Director Duncan informed the
Council that the waiting list is there because there is not enough funding to pay for community -
based waiver services under the current system. The State believes that by implementing
Family Care, and offering care through self - directed services or a Care Management
Organization, the waiting list will be eliminated.
Supervisor Peterson asked if the ADRC application was done by the Department on
Aging. Director Duncan responded that the ADRC application was the responsibility of the
ADRC Ad Hoc Committee — of which she was a member, along with Peg Gagnon and Norma
Vrieze. Supervisor Peterson stated that he understood that and Director Duncan was part of that
committee, but the real hard work was not done by the Ad Hoc Committee. It is his belief that
the majority of the work was done by the Department on Aging. He questioned how the ADRC
Ad Hoc Committee, which was advisory, could overrule the Council on Aging, which is a
governing committee. He finds it very disturbing that the Council on Aging was eliminated; he
inquired if there was a way to amend the decision. Supervisor Peterson went on to say that the
Council on Aging hired Kjersti. He feels that an ADRC is good for the aging people, but has
reservations on how it will be run without Kjersti. He stated that she has been out there on the
point and played the devil's advocate and took the heat. Without her, the seniors will be left out
in the wind.
Director Duncan responded by stating that the Ad Hoc Committee held stakeholder
meetings, met with the Council on Aging and Health & Human Services Board, as well as a
planning group. The result of this process was the Compact. The Council on Aging approved
this Compact, which proposed a restructuring of the board and the department, at the January
2008 meeting. Director Duncan commended the Council on Aging for advocating for a
separate governing board to oversee the ADRC, which creates a structure unlike any other unit
within Health & Human Services. The ADRC Director will have to report to the Health &
Human Services Director, however the Council on Aging and Disabilities will have input into
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the hire and fire and evaluation of the ADRC Director. The governance board will also have
oversight of the policies and procedures of the ADRC and direct contact to the Finance
Committee and the County Board if and when that is needed. This advocacy was important to
not only ensure older adults have a voice and stake in the ADRC and the County, but younger
persons with disabilities as well. Director Duncan encouraged members of the council, whether
they serve on the new Council on Aging & Disabilities or not, to make sure that governance
committee holds the ADRC accountable. That role is not just up to one person in the Director's
position, but the role of representatives and consumers.
Chairperson Nelson called on County Administrator Chuck Whiting to speak to the
Council. He stated that the resignation of Director Duncan is a great loss. She has always been
a good advocate for the seniors of St. Croix County. He said Aging has always been a unique
department and serves more individuals directly than any other in the county. Aging has always
found a way to serve individuals. The creation of an ADRC was not the county's idea, but the
state's. With the formation and merging of the Department on Aging with Health & Human
Services, it is important that the Aging services not be diminished. Organizing the County
structure to ensure this does not happen should be the priority. The time going forward is
crucial and there will be a gap between the time when Director Duncan leaves until a new
ADRC Director is hired. If it looks as though services are in jeopardy of being cut or looked at
differently, contact should be made to the County Board. Whiting stated that he wants to help
ensure that services for the elderly remain. Administrator Whiting said that he would help out
where he could.
Baldwin Nutrition Program Manager Dull asked if they will need to go through the
County Board for issues that take place at the Senior Center. Administrative Coordinator
Whiting said that there is no reason why the Senior Centers should not continue doing the
things that usually would do during this transition. Director Duncan stated that questions and
concerns at the sites should still be brought to the office and if there are any ethical or other
issues that arise at the Senior Center, they will be referred to Administrative Coordinator
Whiting.
Chairperson Nelson asked if the ADRC Director will be doing two jobs — what Director
Duncan currently does and ADRC responsibilities as well. Whiting responded by stating that
the ADRC Director will be responsible for the current Department on Aging Director's
responsibilities and will learn the functions of Health & Human Services. Kjersti's energy gave
him a lot of confidence that she would do very well working in New Richmond and getting her
point across. When looking to fill the position, it will be important to find a balance between
someone who is coming from an aging background and/or someone who comes from a Health
& Human Services background. Regardless, it is important for the group present and others in
the future to understand the need to articulate the aging component. There are a large number
of seniors in the county and they have the ability to articulate their needs. Chairperson Nelson
asked if Whiting will be writing the May SCAN. Whiting stated that he will help out, but will
be looking for assistance from the staff.
Marge Wolske, Roberts, asked why there is only one caregiver for older adults on the Council
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on Aging and Disabilities. Director Duncan stated that the guidelines for the formation of the
governing board were laid out by the state and the representation of the Council on Aging &
Disabilities meets those requirements. In addition to the various representatives who could be
caregivers for younger persons with disabilities, the Ad Hoc committee included a slot for a
caregiver for older adults. This decision was made out of respect for the number of persons who
balance caregiving for their elderly parents. Director Duncan reiterated that members of the Council
on Aging & Disabilities will most likely represent more then one target group — everyone is
impacted, if not part of, the target groups served by the ADRC.
Laura Rebhan, New Richmond, questioned why the title has been changed from Director to
Section Manager. Whiting stated that titles are bureaucratic. Not only will there be a change within
the ADRC, there will be title changes within Health & Human Services. The position will have a
different title, but will have the additional responsibilities and higher pay. Rebhan then asked if the
ADRC Section Manager will report to the Health & Human Services Director. Whiting stated yes
and that he /she would be responsible for working for the Council on Aging and Disabilities.
Rebhan then asked what the timeline would be. Whiting stated that when the new County Board is
in place they will pick a Chair and officers. The County Board Chair will then make committee
appointments. Once the committees are appointed, including the Council on Aging and Disabilities,
the process for hiring will occur. Rebhan asked where the ADRC office will be located. Director
Duncan stated that current office space used by the Department on Aging will be used as well as
space in New Richmond. Services will be the same no matter which location a person visits. Calls
will be directed through the 1 -800# currently advertised and used by the Department on Aging.
Calls can be transferred from this number to New Richmond.
Rebhan then asked why there has not been any publicity regarding the change with the
Department on Aging and the formation of the ADRC. She stated all of the local newspapers need
to be notified. She stated that there seems to be lots of loop holes that need to be filled and she
hopes that they are ready for it. There is a large population of individuals that are caring for autistic
children that will be knocking on the doors of the ADRC. If it falls on its face in the beginning, it
will be harder to get it back on track. Director Duncan stated it will be a role of the Council on
Aging and Disabilities to help with the changes that nees to take place.
Marge Wolske, Roberts, asked about the funding that currently is received by the Department
on Aging; the Department on Aging receives grants, program income, and other donations — she
asked if that would be spread to other programs within Health and Human Services. Director
Duncan stated that it was specified in the Compact that 100% of ADRC funding would stay within
the ADRC to provide services within the ADRC — which include the nutrition services and other
aging programs.
Dianne Rhein, Regional Area Agency on Aging Field Representative, stated that all over the
state there are changes and opportunities that exist. She stated that without a good structure there
will be no services. The money from the state is getting tighter and will be tighter as time goes on.
Maintaining the governing board is also very important. There are not many counties that have a
governing board separate from the Health and Human Services. Individuals on the Board and others
need to be vigilant to ensure that services continue. Another thing is to keep an eye on is the budget
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tp ensure that money allocated for Aging services is used for Aging services. She stated that she sits
in on a lot of meetings where the disability interest groups feel that aging will dominate; that
concern should also be taken into consideration.
It is important to get the word out regarding the change. Rhein suggested that a record be
kept of questions asked and talk to other Counties with ADRCs. Issues will need to be addressed
and vigilance is important.
Whenever an Aging Unit changes its structure the Area Agency on Aging needs to be
involved. Currently the Department on Aging is a stand alone agency and with the formation of an
ADRC the Department will be within Health and Human Services. The AAA can be there for
technical assistance to ensure that the Aging mission is not lost within the ADRC. They can assist
with the application process for the ADRC Director.
Rhein commended Director Duncan for her leadership; Rhein stated Duncan is very articulate
and knows what she is talking about. She also commended the staff for their hard work over the
years.
Community Services Coordinator Tracy Davis asked Administrator Coordinator Whiting
about the county's pay scale, as current Department on Aging staff are paid less then comparable
positions within Health and Human Services. Whiting agreed that there has historically been a
difference in pay between the Department on Aging and Health & Human Services. Many of the
positions within Health and Human Services are within the Union. Davis pointed out that
historically wages were lower within the Department on Aging because there was the possibility that
services would be cut if wages were higher. Administrative Assistant Aeschliman asked what
positions within the ADRC will be part of the Union. Whiting was not ready to answer the question
at this time.
Whiting stated the only Department on Aging position that will change is the Director's
position. The new positions in the ADRC will be three I &A Specialists, and one Disability Benefit
Specialist. Director Duncan reiterated that there are no positions that will be eliminated within the
Department on Aging.
Whiting stated that the Department on Aging should continue to do what is currently being
done until told differently. Director Duncan stated that before she leaves, she will lay -out directions
for Nutrition Program staff regarding whom they should contact with concerns. She also mentioned
that it will be beneficial for Nutrition Program staff to continue to attend the Council on Aging and
Disabilities' meetings. In the application, it was outlined that this committee will meet once a
month at locations throughout the county. It could be assumed that the meeting time and date would
be the same as the current Council on Aging. A question was raised regarding the upcoming
volunteer appreciation banquet and other special events that are held annually. Director Duncan
reiterated that Administrative Coordinator Whiting has stated services will continue like usual and
the banquet is just one example.
Laura Rebhan, New Richmond, stated that she became involved with the Department on
Aging around 2000. She stated that Sandy Gehrmann worked and worked for 25 years to establish
services and that Kjersti has done more for the Department on Aging. She asked that Whiting
review Kjersti's most recent annual report to the County Board and note the variety of services,
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accomplishments, and goals. Ms. Rebhan then asked if the ADRC Section Manager will have the
same opportunity to articulate to the County Board the services which have been provided. Director
Duncan stated that a commitment was made in the Compact to ensure the ADRC Director will
report annually to the County Board; other opportunities could also exist as there is a direct
relationship between the County Board and the Council on Aging and Disabilities.
A motion to adjourn was made by Councilmember Tubman and seconded by Councilmember
Schrank; motion carried.
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