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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Zoning & Parks 12-20-1996AMENDED ST. CROIX COUNTY NOTICE OF COMMITTEE MEETING TO: Robert Boche, St. Croix County Board Chairman FROM: Thomas Dorsey, Chairperson COMMITTEE TITLE: Planning, Zoning & Parks DATE OF MEETING: Friday, December 20, 1996 TIME: 8:30 a.m. LOCATION: County Board Room, St. Croix County Government Center, Hudson, WI CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL: ADOPTION OF AGENDA: ACTION ON PREVIOUS MINUTES: DATE OF NEXT MEETING: UNFINISHED BUSINESS: NEW BUSINESS: L. Park Business a. Bills and Invoices b. Park Manager's Report C. Troy Park Access d. Sled Dog Outfitter Request* e. Any Other Business 2. Planning Business a. Bills, Invoices and Revenue Report b. County Development Management Plan/Zoning Ordinance C. Bass Lake Flood Hazard Mitigation Plan d. Request for Lighted Cross Country Ski Trail on Government Center Property e. Any Other Business 3. 10:00 a.m. Hearing - Laverne and Elizabeth Anderson, Town of St. Joseph, Request to Subdivide in the Riverway District. 4. Minor Subdivisions 5. Major Subdivisions 6. Zoning Business a. Bills, Invoices and Revenue Report b. Violations'& Citations C. Rezonements d. Floodplain Mapping - Glen Hills Watershed e. Chuck Cook - Subdivision Ordinance Amendment f. Riverway Bluffline g. Periodically Closing the Zoning Office to the Public h. Any Other Business AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING ANNOUINCEMENTS & CORRESPONDENCE ADJOURNMENT (This agenda not necessarily presented in this order) Submitted by: St. Croix County Planning Department Date: December 18, 1996 cc: County Board Office News Media/Notice County Clerk Committee Members ST. CROIX COUNTY NOTICE OF COMMITTEE MEETING TO: Robert Boche, St. Croix County Board Chairman FROM: Thomas Dorsey, Chairperson COMMITTEE TITLE: Planning, Zoning & Parks DATE OF MEETING: Friday, December 20, 1996 TIME: 8:30 a.m. LOCATION: County Board Room, St. Croix County Government Center, Hudson, WI CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL: ADOPTION OF AGENDA: ACTION ON PREVIOUS MINUTES: DATE OF NEXT MEETING: UNFINISHED BUSINESS: NEW BUSINESS: L. Park Business a. Bills and Invoices b. Park Manager's Report C. Troy Park Access d. Any Other Business 2. Planning Business a. Bills, Invoices and Revenue Report b. County Development Management Plan/Zoning Ordinance C. Bass Lake Flood Hazard Mitigation Plan d. Request for Lighted Cross Country Ski Trail on Government Center Property e. Any Other Business 3. 10:00 a.m. Hearing - Laverne and Elizabeth Anderson, Town of St. Joseph, Request to Subdivide in the Riverway District. 4. Minor Subdivisions 5. Major Subdivisions 6. Zoning Business a. Bills, Invoices and Revenue Report b. Violations & Citations C. Rezonements d. Floodplain Mapping - Glen Hills Watershed e. Chuck Cook - Subdivision Ordinance Amendment f. Riverway Bluffline g. Periodically Closing the Zoning Office to the Public h. Any Other Business AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING ANNOUNCEMENTS & CORRESPONDENCE ADJOURNMENT (This agenda not necessarily presented in this order) Submitted by: St. Croix County Planning Department Date: December 12, 1996 cc: County Board Office News Media/Notice County Clerk Committee Members PLANNING, ZONING AND PARKS COMMITTEE MEETING December 20, 1996 PRESENT: Chairman Tom Dorsey, Vice Chairman Ron Raymond and Committee Members George Menter, Dave Hense and Linda Luckey. Staff. Ellen Denzer, Joe Grant, Dave Fodroczi, Tom Nelson, Ryan Dahlke, Greg Timmerman, and Dan Fedderly. Others: Joe Eells; Charles Cook; John Davis Jr.; Al Nyhagen; Jim Weber; Harvey Johnson; Larry Murphy; Doug Zahler; and Steve, Jeff and Randy Cudd. Chairman Dorsey requested that Ron Raymond Chair the meeting as he is not feeling well. The meeting was called to order by Vice Chairman Raymond at 8:35 a.m. Discussion on the agenda. Raymond requested that all staff members keep agenda items brief and discussion short. The meeting is to be done by 1:30 p.m. Motion by Menter seconded by Dorsey to approve the agenda. Motion carried. Minutes/January Meeting Date Motion by Menter, seconded by Raymond to approve the November 26, 1996 and December 6, 1996 minutes. Motion carried. The January meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, January 28, 1997. PARK BUSINESS Park Bills & Invoices Parks Director Joe Grant passed out a list of the December bills. Motion by Hense, seconded by Menter to approve the bills. Motion carried. Park Manager's Report Grant distributed a final 1996/1995 Park User Fees Revenue Report for committee review. No progress on the horse/bike conflict on the Woodville Trail. The question is whether the Woodville Trail is part of the County Parks System or if it is other lands under the jurisdiction of the Committee. A copy of the Parks Ordinance was provided for the Committee to review for further discussion next month. Snowmobile Trails are open and the groomers are running. However, one farmer in the Woodville area is protesting milk prices. The trail is blocked with a gate and a sign saying "trail closed until milk prices are up. Grant has referred this to the Snowmobile Association for discussion at their meeting on January 8, 1996. They will set up a committee to respond to this situation. Grant instructed to take the message to the Snowmobile Association that long-term they need to obtain legal easements to the trails or they will continue to be threatened by other users. Troy Park Access Grant distributed an access agreement for a commercial fishing operation to use Troy Park to access the St. Croix River. The agreement was drawn up by Corporation Counsel. Fee shall be $500. Terms shall be from January 1, 1997 through March 1, 1997. Committee members stated that they would prefer to deny the request but they feel they should assist the Town of Troy. Committee members would prefer the DNR not issue permits without providing public access. Grant instructed to inform the fisherman that this is a one-time permit. Motion by Hense, seconded by Menter to approve the Access Agreement with terms as outlined above. Motion carried. Sled Dog Outfitter Request Grant provided Committee members with a copy of a letter informing a sled dog owner that the snowmobile trail easements with landowners do not allow sled dogs on the trails unless the dog team owner also owns the land where the trail easement runs. Joe Eells of MJ Sled Dogs has been booking dog sled rides and tours in the River Falls area and it is Grant's understanding that these rides will be on snowmobile trails. Eells is requesting that he be allowed on the snowmobile trails. Grant and Corporation Counsel Greg Timmerman do not recommend allowing sled dogs on the trails unless the landowner(s) gives permission in writing and provides a copy to the County. The County's liability insurance covers the trail system. Grant does have a copy of MJ Sled Dogs certificate of insurance. Motion by Hense, seconded by Dorsey to table discussion of this issue. Motion carried. Committee recessed at 10:00 a.m. Chairman Tom Dorsey excused as he was not feeling well. Meeting reconvened at 10:10 a.m. ZONING BUSINESS 10:10 a.m. Hearing -- Laverne and Elizabeth Anderson, Town of St. Joseph, Request to Subdivide in the Riverway District Committee opened the public hearing. Request for a special exception to create a three -acre lot in the Riverway District by Laverne and Elizabeth Anderson, Town of St. Joseph. The lot does meet all the Riverway District requirements. It has been reviewed by the DNR and approved. The Committee is asked to review only the Riverway District requirements. The lot has not been reviewed as a certified survey map. Discussion. Motion by Menter, seconded by Hense to close the public hearing. Motion carried. Motion by Luckey, seconded by Menter to recommend approval of the special exception to create a three - acre lot in the Riverway District. Motion carried. Minors Minors were reviewed by Survey Technician Ryan Dahlke. Please see attachments. Major: Evergreen Estates - Final Plat Humbird Land Corporation requests approval of the final plat for Evergreen Estates, Section 23, T29N, R19W, Town of Hudson, 16 lots on 46.89 acres, ag/residential zoning, fees paid and soil tests are on file. Staff recommends conditional approval with minor map changes to be completed. Motion by Hense, seconded by Menter to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. Request for Plat Amendment for the Salishan Development Request by Jeff and Steve Cudd to amend the preliminary plat of the Salishan development. Because the lots are allegedly "visually inconspicuous" the Cudds are requesting plat amendment allowing 40-foot setbacks from all 12 percent slopes of the bluffline in the Riverway District. The preliminary plat was approved with 100 foot setbacks from the bluffline for all but one lot which was approved with a 40 foot setback. The final plat was recorded but it does not show bluffline setbacks. The Cudds are requesting a change at this time because they previously thought that the only way to get a change in the setback requirements was a change in state law. They have been investigating this for five years and they feel that this is already allowable in the law. They feel it has taken five years to get to the point where they have proof that 40 foot setbacks are allowable by existing law. 2 The County Surveyor wrote a letter in May, 1996 describing three possible ways that a final plat can be revised: a replat, an affidavit or an notation affixed to the document by the appropriate official in the Register of Deeds Office, which references other documents and does not change the map. He states that the replat would be the most appropriate in this instance. Hense reviewed a May, 1996 letter sent to the Zoning Department from the Town of Troy regarding amending the setbacks of the Salishan Plat. The Town Planning Committee voted 5-2 recommending 60 foot setbacks on lots 4, 5, 6 and 9. The Town Board after extensive discussion and confusion over the DNR regulations, sent it on to the County with no recommendation. The Cudds are requesting that the Committee do a physical inspection of the Salishan lots to determine if buildings would be visually conspicuous, even in the winter months, from the riverway at 40 foot or 60 foot or 100 foot setbacks. They are willing to accept the Committee decision on this if the Committee is willing to review it in greater depth. Nelson noted that no fees have been paid for a reapplication. Hense noted that the Town letter addressed lots 4, 5, 6 and 9. The Cudds are requesting plat amendment to the setback on lots 1, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 9. Timmerman stated that if reduced setbacks are a possibility, then the Committee has to deal with it under the existing ordinance, not the past interpretation of the existing ordinance. He noted that the 100 foot setback has not been universally enforced in the past and he recommended that the Committee keep the primary objective of the Riverway Master Plan in mind which is to "preserve the view from the water surface." The Committee agreed to set up a special Committee meeting for a physical inspection of 'visually conspicuousness" from the riverway. Committee would like representatives from the DNR at the meeting. Tentative date set for January 16, 1997 at 1 p.m. Committee recessed at 11:50 a.m. Meeting reconvened at 12:05 p.m. Bills, Invoices and Revenue Report Committee members reviewed the Zoning Department revenue report. Motion by Menter, seconded by Hense to approve the November bills. Motion carried. Violations & Citations Zoning Administrator Tom Nelson provided copies of violations and citations issued to Steve Cudd, Jeff Cudd, Edward J. Harrison III and Kevin and Linda Anderson. No action necessary. Rezonements Bonnie Richert rezoning hearing scheduled for Wednesday, January 8th at the St. Joseph Town Hall, viewing at 7:00 p.m. and hearing at 7:30 p.m. has, been cancelled. Floodplain Mapping - Glen Hills Watershed The hearing on the floodplain map is scheduled for Wednesday, January 15th at the Glenwood Town Hall at 8 p.m. Subdivision Ordinance Amendment Charles Cook of Continental Development Corporation, has submitted a revised request for alternative road designs (urban) to amend the subdivision ordinance. Highway Commissioner Dan Fedderly provided Committee members with a letter summarizing his transportation concerns with the proposed Subdivision Ordinance Amendment. The towns should be aware of all the long-term maintenance implications of an urban design. The ordinance can not be written to cover all the possible considerations necessary in an urban design. Instead each request should be reviewed individually in reference to urban design engineering standards. This allows either concrete or asphalt curb and gutter depending on the approval. Timmerman stated that he also feels it is very important to inform the towns about the implications of long-term maintenance associated with an urban design. The Committee can amend the ordinance to allow the design and after informing towns of the long-term maintenance implications and make development decisions based on that town's reaction. Timmerman would not write into the ordinance a town veto power to this section of the Subdivision Ordinance. Another option would be to encourage Towns to adopt an abbreviated subdivision ordinance which only allows one type of road design. A copy of this abbreviated subdivision ordinance was provided to the Zoning Department and it could be provided to the Towns for their review, hearing and adoption. Planning Director Dave Fodroczi recommended putting into the ordinance amendment a provision that the Planning, Zoning and Parks Committee will only approve alternative road designs if they are built to standards and the town agrees to accept the maintenance responsibilities. If the town writes to the Committee saying it will not accept the maintenance responsibilities then the Committee must deny the request for alternative road design. Motion by Luckey, seconded by Menter to approve the amendment to the subdivision ordinance subject to the Planning, Zoning, Corporation Counsel and Highway department staff drafting language detailing the above recommendation. Motion by Raymond, seconded by Hense to amend the original motion to review the new language and hold a public hearing on January 6, 1997 before the County Board holds the official public hearing at the January County Board meeting. Amendment motion carried. Main motion carried. Committee requested that the Planning Department staff insure that the January 6, 1997 hearing be publicized. Riverway Bluffline Prior to the meeting, Corporation Counsel Greg Timmerman sent memos to the Committee members regarding the proposed amendments to the Zoning Ordinance Section 17.36 Lower St. Croix Riverway District. Committee members requested one change to Diagram 2, Appendix A. "Vegetative cutting permitted with special exception use permit" on the second Buildable Area. Motion by Luckey, seconded by Menter to recommend amending Section 17.36, Lower St. Croix River District, County Zoning Ordinance, as outlined in the attached memo by Timmerman, with the above described change. Public hearing to be held on the proposed changes on January 6, 1997 at 10 a.m. at the Government Center. Motion carried. Periodically Closing the Zoning Office to the Public Nelson noted that the Zoning Office was closed to the public on Tuesday mornings when it was in the 824 building. This was very helpful. However, due to the counter and suite situation the office has not 4 been closed since moving to the new Government Center. Nelson recommended closing the office to the public on Tuesdays and/or Thursdays for part of the day. The Committee would like to see a notice about the closing put into the papers to inform the public. Motion by Hense, seconded by Raymond, to consider closing during the week, dates and times to be determined by staff and Zoning Administrator, and to report back to the Committee in a couple months as to how well it is working. Motion carried. PLANNING BUSINESS Planning Bills, Invoices & Revenue Report Committee members reviewed the Planning Department revenue report. Motion by Menter, seconded by Hense to approve the December bills. Motion carried. Committee instructed staff to discuss paying for the Appraisal Update from Quality Appraisals with Finance Director Rich Loney. Committee recommends utilizing the contingency fund since the original appraisal was significantly less than the $5000 authorized by the County Board. County Development Management Plan/Zoning Ordinance Fodroczi reviewed the activities of the Zoning Workgroup and the progress on ordinance update. Discussion on the ability to work on the ordinance update and the plan creation and whether it is possible to move more quickly on one than the other. Fodroczi pointed out that the plan should guide some of the elements of the ordinance. Also it is important to pull a variety of people into the process and give them time to bring forward their concerns. Staff could rewrite the ordinance without their input or with limited input from them but that would not be politically correct and it would send a negative message regarding their involvement. It is also important to understand that the ordinance is being rewritten from scratch, it is not just a matter of reworking it section by section. Bass Lake Flood Hazard Mitigation Plan Fodroczi reported that the Bass Lake Rehabilitation District has paid Cedar Corporation to develop a Bass Lake Flood Hazard Mitigation Plan. Fodroczi has reviewed and discussed it with Emergency Government Director Jack Colvard and the Emergency Government Committee and he has written a letter to Cedar Corporation expressing his concerns. He is concerned that the Plan takes liberties in committing the County to a level of involvement which is premature given that federal guidelines have not been written regarding County involvement in flood hazard planning and prevention or the costs associated therewith. Request for a Lighted Cross -Country Ski Trail on Government Center Property The Finance Committee referred a request for a Lighted Cross -Country Ski Trail on the Government Center property to the Committee for discussion and recommendation. Fodroczi provided a copy of the request and recommended Committee review for discussion and decision at the January meeting. Hense noted a concern with allowing the trail because once it is established it will be very hard to remove it when the County needs the land. Fodroczi stated he will provide a background memo before the next meeting addressing liability concerns and other issues. Any Other Business Denzer informed Committee that the DNR has requested that the County act as a clearing house for a grant award to the National Park Service (NPS) to provide two toilet facilities on Pillar Island, two new floating toilet facilities and repair of two existing floating toilet facilities on the St. Croix River. There would be a limited amount of staff time involved to submit a grant application and to process one request from the NPS for payment. This item will come back to the Committee in January for action on a resolution to sponsor the grant. Committee indicated this is a good idea, but recommended staff review with the Finance Department. Motion to adjourn by Menter, seconded by Hen, se. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 1:05 p.m. Submitted b Elle7n Den'zer, Recordm r1cretary Dave Hense, Secreta ;1 MINOR SUBDIVISIONS December 20, 1996 1. OWNER: John B. Davis, Jr SURVEYOR: James Weber LOCATION: SWi/4-NEl/4 & NWl/4-SE'/a, Section 21, T28N-R18W, Town of Kinnickinnic NO.OF LOTS: 2 lots of 28.25 acres, original parcel, 28.25 acres ZONING: Ag Residential FEES: Paid SOIL TEST: Lot 1, not on file; Lot 2, not required TOWNSHIP ACTION: Approved STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Conditional approval CONDITIONS: Easement to be recorded and recording information placed on map; soil test for Lot 1 to be on file with the Zoning Office, COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Menter, seconded by Hense to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. 2. OWNER: Jack Hei SURVEYOR: James Weber LOCATION: SWI/4-SWl/a, Section 17, T28N-R16W, Town of Eau Galle NO.OF LOTS: 1 lot of 4.88 acres, original parcel, 40 acres ZONING: Ag Residential FEES: Paid SOIL TEST: Not required TOWNSHIP ACTION: Approved STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Approval CONDITIONS: None COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Hense, seconded by Menter to approve. Motion carried. 3. OWNER: Gordon Truesdill, Jr. SURVEYOR: Laurence Murphy LOCATION: SEl/4-SWl/4, Section 9, T29N-R18W, Town of Warren NO.OF LOTS: 1 lot of 2.170 acres, original parcel, 147± acres ZONING: Ag Residential FEES: Paid SOIL TEST: On file TOWNSHIP ACTION: Approved, with conditions STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Approval CONDITIONS: Town conditions are that the existing driveway moved 50 ft. to the west be shown on map. COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Hense, seconded by Menter to approve with the existing driveway moved 50 feet to the west and shown on the map. Motion carried. 7 4. OWNER: Robert Tor e rson SURVEYOR: Laurence Murphy LOCATION: NWl/4-NWl/4, Section 10, T28N-R16W, Town of Eau Galle NO.OF LOTS: 1 lot of 33.07 acres, original parcel, 37.710 acres ZONING: Ag Residential FEES: Paid SOIL TEST: On file (no suitable site for a septic system was found.) TOWNSHIP ACTION: Approved STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Conditional approval CONDITIONS: Place note on map identifying that no suitable site was found for a septic system. COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Luckey, seconded by Hense to conditionally approve per staff recommendation. Motion carried. 5. OWNER: Laurie Durand & Patricia Segelstrom SURVEYOR: Doug Zahler LOCATION: SE'/4-NW'/4, Section 12, T30N-R19W, Town of Somerset NO.OF LOTS: 2 lots of 33.35 acres, original parcel, 40 acres (remainder has been platted as part of major) ZONING: Ag Residential FEES: Paid SOIL TEST: Lot 1, not on file; Lot 2, not required TOWNSHIP ACTION: Approved STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Conditional approval CONDITIONS: Soil test for Lot 1 to be on file with the Zoning Office; minor map changes. COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Menter, seconded by Hense to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. 6. OWNER: Ralph Mondor SURVEYOR: Doug Zahler LOCATION: SWl/4-SEl/4, Section 29, T3IN-RI 8W, Town of Star Prairie NO.OF LOTS: 2 lots of 29.4 acres, original parcel, 150± acres ZONING: Ag Residential FEES: Paid SOIL TEST: Lot 3, on file; Lot 4, on file TOWNSHIP ACTION: Approved STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Approval CONDITIONS: None COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Hense, seconded by Raymond to approve. Motion carried. 7. OWNER: David & Carol Cover SURVEYOR: Al Nyhagen LOCATION: G. L. 1 & G. L. 2, Section 28, T29N-R18W, Town of Warren NO.OF LOTS: 1 lot of 3.60 acres, plus 1 outlot of 1.78 acres, original parcel, 100± acres ZONING: Ag Residential FEES: Paid SOIL TEST: On file 8 TOWNSHIP ACTION: STAFF RECOMMENDATION: CONDITIONS: COMMITTEE ACTION 8. OWNER: SURVEYOR: LOCATION: NO.OF LOTS: ZONING: FEES: SOIL TEST: TOWNSHIP ACTION: STAFF RECOMMENDATION: CONDITIONS: COMMITTEE ACTION: Approved, with conditions Conditional approval Joint access to be constructed to county standards to the point where it divides; town conditions are that CSM show existence of adjoining lot. Motion by Hense, seconded by Menter to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. Dean & Janet Wellman Harvey Johnson SW'/4-SEI/4, Section 20, T29N-R19W, Town of Hudson 2 lots of 6.00 acres, original parcel, 6.6 acres Town of Hudson Zoning Paid Lot 3, not on file; Lot 4, not on file Approved Conditional approval Soil tests for both lots to be on file with the Zoning Office. Motion by Hense, seconded by Luckey to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. 9. OWNER: Sam Miller SURVEYOR: Al Nyhagen LOCATION: NWI/4-NWI/4, Section 28, T29N-R19W, Town of Hudson NO.OF LOTS: 2 lots of 6.05 acres, original parcel, 6.0 acres ZONING: Town of Hudson Zoning FEES: SOIL TEST: TOWNSHIP ACTION: STAFF RECOMMENDATION: CONDITIONS: COMMITTEE ACTION: 10. OWNER: SURVEYOR: LOCATION: NO.OF LOTS: ZONING: FEES: SOIL TEST: TOWNSHIP ACTION: EXTRA -TERRITORIAL ACTION STAFF RECOMMENDATION: CONDITIONS: COMMITTEE ACTION: Paid Lot 1, not required, Lot 2, not on file Approved Conditional approval Soil test for Lot 2 to be on file with the Zoning Office. Motion by Luckey, seconded by Menter to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. Robert Oestrich Al Nyhagen NWI/4-SWI/4 & NE'/4-SEI/4, Section 18, T29N-R19W, Town of Hudson 3 lots of 20.44 acres, original parcel, 18 acres Town of Hudson Zoning Paid Lot 1, not required; Lot 2, on file; Lot 3, not on file Approved Approved Conditional approval Soil test for Lot 3 to be on file with the Zoning Office. Motion by Hense, seconded by Menter to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. 0