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NOTICE OF COMMITTEE MEETING AND AGENDA
ST. CROIX COUNTY, WISCONSIN
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 — 9:00 A.M.
County Board Room
St. Croix County Government Center
1101 Carmichael Road, Hudson, Wisconsin
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
DATE OF NEXT MEETING
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS — September 14, 2010
OLD AND NEW BUSINESS:
1. Discuss county management structure — administrative coordinator vs. administrator
ADJOURN
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*Additions /Changes /Corrections
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OFFICIAL MINUTES — approved 04 -14 -11
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 — 9:00 A.M.
County Board Room, St. Croix County Government Center
Meeting called to order by Vice Chair Wentz at 9:00 a.m.
Present: 16 members; absent and excused: Roger Larson, Ryan Sicard, Fred Horne
Others Present: Administrative Coordinator Chuck Whiting, Corporation Counsel Greg Timmerman,
Charlie Carlson of Carlson Dettman Consulting, Eau Claire County Administrator Tom McCarty, Eau
Claire County Board Chair Greg Moore, Polk County Board Chair William Johnson, Polk County
Administrator Dana Frey, County Clerk Cindy Campbell.
Motion by Schrank 2nd by Sather to adopt the agenda. Carried unanimously.
Date of next meeting is January 10, 2011 at 7:45 a.m. Chair Standafer indicated this will be a reception
for area legislators with a meeting to follow.
Motion by Malick, 2nd by Shearer to approve the minutes of September 14, 2010. Carried unanimously.
Old and New Business:
1. Discuss County Management Structure — Administrative Coordinator vs. Administrator. Chair
Standafer explained the proposed change from administrative coordinator to administrator. Standafer
reported the Administration Committee voted unanimously to consider changing from a coordinator form
of government to administrator form of government. Standafer introduced Charlie Carlson of Carlson
Dettman Consultants to facilitate the discussion. Standafer also introduced guests invited to the meeting
who have experienced this structure — Greg Moore, Eau Claire County Board Chair, Tom McCarty, Eau
Claire Administrator, William Johnson, Polk County Board Chair and Dana Frey, Polk County
Administrator.
Carlson provided his experiences with changes in county government and compared Administrative
Coordinator duties to County Administrator duties. Carlson stated Department Heads report to the
County Administrator. The County Administrator is responsible for proposing the annual budget to the
County Board.
Carlson suggested getting County Board approval to study this change at the December County Board
meeting which would authorize the Administration Committee to do the legwork including review of
several internal organizational changes. He suggested the changes be adopted before recruitment of a
County Administrator, approximately a 60 — 90 day process. In February or March adopt a resolution
approving the position and engaging in recruitment. The final step is to finish the recruitment and come
forward with a candidate, or two, however the selection process is set -up. The County Board would make
the appointment of the County Administrator.
Representatives from Polk and Eau Claire counties provided a history of the County Administrator
positions. Moore provided a handout containing duties and statute information. Both County
Administrators present indicated they were hired by contract. Carlson stated County Administrators serve
at the pleasure of the County Board.
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Discussion regarding committee appointments. McCarty indicated he has nothing to do with County
Board committee appointments. He indicated his office recruits Board and Commission appointments of
citizen members and brings this information to the Administration Committee and County Board for
appointment and confirmation. Frey stated he has no appointment authority in Polk County. He added
the County Administrator has the authority to appoint citizen members but he is currently working on
formalizing the process by implementing an application process.
Discussion regarding establishing county priorities. McCarty stated in 2004 the Eau Claire County
Board, through the Administration Committee, went through this process to define programs and priority
of the programs. Every department worked with a panel made up of County Board members and county
citizens that met once a week and set point values for each program and published the document.
Priorities are fairly similar from county to county. McCarty stated this provided the County Board with
direction when allocating funds during budget time.
Discussion regarding the budget process. McCarty stated the budget process is a team approach. Budget
guidelines are set. Department Heads prepare their budgets and submit to the department's oversight
committee then to the County Administrator. McCarty stated the Department Head and oversight
committee must agree on the budget. The County Administrator puts together a proposed budget that
needs to be balanced and reviews the budgets with Department Heads before it goes to the Finance
Committee and County Board. Frey explained in Polk County ground rules are set immediately. Budgets
are reviewed by the County Administrator and then the budget goes to the County Board. During the
budget process the Finance Committee met twice a month with the County Administrator.
Johnson recommends having Department Heads involved in recruitment and the decision process for the
County Administrator.
Discussion regarding county nursing homes. McCarty indicated Eau Claire got out of the business in
1996 when the County Board made the decision that the needs were met by other facilities in the
community. Johnson stated Polk County has had success in operating the Golden Age Nursing Home in
Amery when they decided to add an Alzheimer's unit. He indicated there are good years and bad years.
Discussion regarding making changes to county department structure. McCarty stated they have reviewed
how staff and departments do business in a number of areas. Frey stated Polk County has made minor
changes in the last six months. They no longer have a Finance Director but rather a Finance Manager.
Frey advised not to go into department re- structuring with the idea it will save money.
Discussion regarding the number of Department Heads reporting to the County Administrator. McCarty
stated there are approximately 25 Department Heads and 17 report to the County Administrator. Frey
indicated Polk County is about the same.
Carlson highlighted the impact a County Administrator would have on the collective bargaining process.
McCarty stated in Eau Claire County the Human Resources Committee is the negotiating group and the
chief negotiator is the Corporation Counsel. Frey explained he has not been through this process in Polk
County yet. He stated the County Administrator can provide resource information on how much money is
available, noting increases in health insurance.
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Discussion regarding administrative staff support for the County Administrator. McCarty stated he has
less staff today than when he arrived. He currently has an assistant who is a non - represented confidential
staff person and a three- fourths administrative assistant who works the front desk. Both provide clerical
support to the County Board Chair. Frey indicated he has part time administrative support staff. Carlson
suggested asking candidates for the position of County Administrator or Administrative Coordinator,
what they see as a future organization of the Finance Director and Human Resource Administrator.
Discussion regarding the current structure in which committees oversee departments and relinquishing
that control to the County Administrator. Moore indicated the County Administrator does not rule the
County Board but there's respect between the two. The County Board makes policy and the County
Administrator does the day -to -day operations. Frey indicated the policy and implementation line is
sometimes fuzzy. The County Board needs to make policy decisions. Committees implement goals and
review the financial portion.
Discussion regarding changes to expect in having a County Administrator. McCarty stated he provides
Department Heads with updates on activities and he may or may not attend committee meetings, unless
requested. Frey stated he reviews resolutions and makes recommendations to the County Board. He
attempts to make as many meetings as possible. Frey stated the County Administrator can bring anything
to the County Board as the County Administrator deems expedient.
Motion by Malick, 2nd by Sather to recommend to the County Board at the next meeting that we start
down the steps, as outlined by our consultant, towards moving in the direction of the County
Administrator form of government. Timmerman stated it's appropriate for the Committee of the Whole to
make motions and make recommendations to the County Board and use the language of Administration
Committee to sponsor a resolution from the Committee of the Whole. Marzolf asked Whiting for his
opinion regarding Administrative Coordinator vs. County Administrator. Whiting stated everything
discussed is accurate noting the difference in the personnel management side. He added most people will
not notice a difference from Administrative Coordinator to County Administrator. Whoever will be hired
will need support because they will be dealing with difficult things. Whiting felt going to a County
Administrator is a move in right direction.
Johnson stated in Polk County Department Head performance evaluations are done by the County
Administrator which is set up as an objective structure for wage increases.
Malick stated at the last Administration Committee meeting there was a discussion regarding an interim
Administrative Coordinator. If the County Board decides to go with a County Administrator, at the
Administration Committee meeting there was a general feeling that the interim should not be a current
supervisor, or a current Department Head or employee of St. Croix County or a candidate for the County
Administrator position.
Carried unanimously.
Adjourned at 11:35 a.m.
Vice -Chair Esther Wentz
Cindy Campbell, Recording Secretary