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ST. CROIX COUNTY
NOTICE OF COMMITTEE MEETING
TO: Robert Boone, Chairman
St. Croix County Board
FROM: Karen Bailey
comMITTEE TITLE: St. Croix County Health and Human Services
Board
DATE: 0�,/26/95
TIME: 6:30 p.m.
LOCATION: St. Croix County Health and Human Se�cv�.ces Complex
New Richmond
y TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
DATE OF NEXT MEETING" 02/10/95
ACTION ON PREVIOUS MINUTES: 01/11/95
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
ANNOUNCEMEN'Z'S
1. Capital Improvement Report
NEW BUSINESS:
1. FilAanc�-al Report
2. Health and Human services/Nursing Home Report
3. Mental Health Wasting List Strategies
4. 1996 Funding Issues
5. Review of State Mandate List
6. River Ridge Rehabilitation Contract
74 out-of-state training request
ANNOUNCEMENTS fi CORRESPONDENCE
POSSIBLE AGENDA ZTENS FOR NEXT MEETING:
ADJOURNMENT
{Agenda not necessar�.ly presented in this order)
SUBMITTED BY: John M. Borup
DATE- January 25, 1995
COPIES 'I,'O: COUNTY BOARD OFFICE
COUNTY CLERE
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COMMITTEE MEMBERS
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NOTICE OF COMMITTEE MEETING
TO: Robert Boche, Chairman
St. Croix County Board
FROM: Karen Bailey
COMMITTEE TITLE: St. Croix County Health and Human
DATE:
TIME:
LOCATION:
O1/26/95
6:30 p�m.
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New Richmond
CALL TO OR15ER
ROLL CALL
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
DATE OF NEXT MEETING: 02/10/95
ACTION ON PREVIOUS MINUTES: 01/11/95
AT&OUNCEMENTS
"UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
1. Capital Improvement Report
HEFT BUSINESS :
1. Financial Report
2: Health and Duman Services/Nursing Home
3. Mental Health Waiting List Strategies
4-. 1996 Funding Issues
5. Review of State Mandate List
6. River Ridge Rehabilitation contract
ANNOUNCF�iENTS � CORRESPONDENCE
POSSIBLE AGENDA ITEMS FOR NLXT I+�EEmIT�G:
Report
AD�TO�II�T
(Agenda not necessarily presented in this order)
SUBMITTED BY: Jahn M. Borup
DATE: January 19, 1995
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ST . CROIX C()UNTY
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TO: Robert Boche, Chairman
St. Croix County Board
FROM: Karen Bailey
COMMITTEE TITLE: St. Croix County Health
Board
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TIME:
LOCATION:
01/26/95
6:30 P•m-
and Human. Services
St. Croix County Health and Human Services Complex
New Richmond
CAI,t. Tb ORDER
ROLL CALL
ADOPTION OF AOMDA
DATE OF NEXT KEETING: 02/10/95
ACTION ON PREVIOUS HINUTES: 01/11/95
ANNOUNCEMENTS
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
1. Capital Improvement Report
N� BUSINESS
1. FinancA.al Deport
2. Health and human Services/Nursing Home
A'NNOUNCEHENTS & CORRESpONU�iCE
POSSIBLE AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING:
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Report
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(Agenda anot rieaessarily p
SUBMITTED By John M. Borup
DATE: January 16, 1995
COPIES TO: COUNTY BOARD OFFICB
COUNTY CLERK
NEWS MEDIA/NOTICE BOARD
COMMITTEE NEKSERS
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S I CROIX COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BOARD
January 26, 1995
The St. Croix County Health and Human Services Board met on January 26, 1995, at the St.
Croix County Health and Human Services/Health Center complex.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lerman Nyland, Vice Chair
Chris Bethke
Allen Limberg
Robert Stephens
George Sinclear
Karen Bailey, excused
LuVerne Burke, excused
Jack Dowd, excused
One Vacancy
STAFF PRESENT: John Borup, Human Services Director
Judy Aronson, Secretary
Carolyn Krieger, Nursing Home Administrator
Ron Kiesler, Long Term Clinical Services Supervisor
Cindy Griffin, Deputy Director
Steve Kirt, Mental Health Therapist
Donna Patterson, Family Resource Unit Supervisor
Karen Hall, Long Term Support Coordinator
Ralph Robole, Maintenance Supervisor
OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Boche, County Roard Chairman
Don Gjesfjeld, DCS Regional Office
Vice Chair, Lerman Nyland, called the meeting to order at 6:30 P.M. noting that the meeting
was properly and legally publicized. Mr. Nyland stated that Robert Boche, County Board
Chairman would make up the quorum until Allen Limberg arrives.
NEXT MEETING
The next meeting of the Health and Human Services Board will be Friday, February 10, 1995
at 8:00 a.m. at the St. Croix County Human Services/Health Center complex. Chris Bethke will
review the vouchers at 7@30 A.M.
AGENDA
MOTION:
A motion was introduced by Robert Stephens, seconded by Chris Bethke, and unanimously
adopted:
That the agenda be approved and open for discussion.
Mr. Stephens stated we have serious concerns at this time for the placing of items on the agenda.
Discussion followed.
MOTION:
A motion was introduced by Robert Stephens, seconded by Chris Bethke, and unanimously
adopted:
That the Health and Human Services Board approve to place on the agenda for the next meeting
a discussion of a process of what and how items will be placed on the agenda.
Mr. Borup stated Steve Weld will be at the next meeting to articulate how the agenda is set.
MINUTES
MOTION:
A motion was introduced by Robert Stephens, seconded by George Sinclear, and unanimously
adopted:
That the minutes of the O1/11/95 Health and Human Services Board meeting be approved as
circulated.
John Borup introduced Don Gjesfjeld, Assistant Area Administrator, Division of Community
Services. Mr. Borup stated Mr. Gjesfjeld is here to discuss M.A. Case Management for serving
Severely Emotionally Disturbed (SED) children and their families. Mr. Gjesfjeld distributed a
packet based on the questions he was asked. Cindy Griffin distributed her SED Case
Management Fact Sheet.
Allen Limberg arrived at 6:40 p.m.
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Gjesfjeld works with a 12 county area. He stated that the SED Case Management Program
is fairly new, but there are more recipients every year. Mr. Gjesfjeld is encouraging the county
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to get into this. He stated there are financial considerations: for each case management service,
$20.52 is returned to St. Croix County. Mr. Gjesfjeld listed 6 clinical considerations: 1) An
accurate diagnosis is important to any plan, 2) Almost all programs of the DHS have eligibility
criteria, 3)There is no evidence that the labeling has hurt anyone, 4) Clinicians tend to be
conservative about the label they attach, 5) It is highly confidential, and 6) There is explanation
to child, family which exclude labeling.
Board members expressed their opinion that labeling a child with SED is very detrimental to the
child and that SED will be a label that is carried with him/her through adulthood. It would be
a disservice to the child without an accurate diagnosis just to fit into that target group to capture
funding. Mr. Gjesfjeld stated that each and every program has certain criteria that needs to be
followed and stated the same holds true with the SED criteria. Mr. Gjesfjeld stated there is no
need to be sharing this label with schools or the families. It is highly confidential. Mr.
Stephens stated children need an accurate diagnosis, and said that he understands by what is
being said here is that in order to capture the M.A. Services funding, the child needs the
diagnosis of SED. Mr. Stephens also asked if the label of SED doesn't mean anything, why are
we feeling uncomfortable with telling the family that their child has been labeled SED. Cindy
Griffin stated if you apply that philosophy across the board, we would not bill M.A. for mental
health outpatient services for children and would eliminate Donna Patteron' SED programs
because both have labelling requirements. Mr. Borup stated if people make their labels public,
that's their prerogative. Donna Patterson stated SED is a broad category and is used primarily
for billing purposes and that we don't refer to clients by their label, but by their name. Mr.
Borup stated as we all know, funding is dropping. He stated we are simply doing what we can
to continue services by generating money, we are doing what we think appropriate. Mr.
Gjesfjeld stated this is a catch-22, we need to categorize people in order to get the funding.
Karen Hall stated her department has been billing the SED diagnosis since it was available. She
stated when a child has that diagnosis, they do bill if they are on M.A. Mr. Gjesfjeld stated he
fully expected our agency to bill M.A. in order to maximize the services.
Mr. Stephens stated this Committee should obtain a full blown explanation prior to
implementation of any new program. This is only a courtesy. He stated that the Board
members are not figureheads and that administration asks for the support of the Health and
Human Services Board without a full explanation. He stated the Board needs to be kept
informed. Mr. Borup stated this has already been approved by the Board, consequently the
Board has already been informed.
Mr. Borup asked the Health and Human Services Board, where does the Board want
administration to go with this? The decision from the Board was to table this and place this on
the 02/10/95 agenda for the full Board to hear.
Mr. Nyland thanked Don Gjesfjeld for attending our meeting.
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OLD BUSINESS
Capital Improvement Report: A copy of the five year capital improvement plans for Health and
Human Services and Nursing Home was sent to each committee member. Ralph Robole was
present to discuss these plans. The list included:
1) Front entryway and blacktop repair - already approved
2) Handicapped front door openers
3) Point of Use Boilers
4) Energy efficient electric motors
5) Computer cabling and electric
6) Telephones --backup and extension card
7) Water fountain -handicapped accessible
8) Carpeting
9) Drapes
10) Blacktop west parking lot
11) Roof repair
12) Computer training room
13) Windows
This plan totals roughly $90,000.
Mr. Robole recommended getting estimates on the point of use boilers for the 1974 Building.
He stated is looks like a two year pay back or less. Mr. Robole stated there are engineering
firms that will tell us which point of use boilers we would need. If we find a vendor we can
write the specs right into the contract as to what it will heat, how big, etc. and then if it
doesn't meet the specs, the vendor would be liable to rip out the point of use boiler and install
one that will heat according to the specs.
Mr. Robole stated there is an NSP rebate on 25 hp motors which would equal $500.00. The
original cost was $700.00, our cost = $200.00. Mr. Robole did not know now long the rebate
was is effect.
Mr. Robole stated he will have more information in the future.
Discussion followed on all items.
George Sinclear asked that showing designs of the front entryway be put on the agenda of 02-10-
95.
MOTION:
A motion was introduced by Robert Stephens, seconded by George Sinclear, and unanimously
adopted:
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That the Health and Human Services Board approve giving the telephone --backup and extension
card higher priority to #1.
MOTION:
A motion was introduced by Robert Stephens, seconded by Chris Bethke, and unanimously
adopted:
That the Health and Human Services Board approve to proceed on these upgrades of the capital
improvement list as presented.
Carolyn Krieger distributed a nursing home depreciation list. Ms. Krieger stated she started
with the oldest equipment to depreciate out. Ms. Krieger stated the Nursing Home cash
available is $166,209.40. Ms. Krieger also stated that much of this equipment is to old to buy
parts for. She stated we need to place some monies aside for the unpredictable. Discussion
followed.
MOTION:
A motion was introduced by Robert Stephens, seconded by George Sinclear, and unanimously
adopted:
That the Health and Human Services Board approve Carolyn Krieger to prioritize the list as
presented and use the available $100,000 to replace items needed and to hold in reserve $41,000
for emergencies.
We have no assurances of what funding will be in 1995-1996.
Nursing Home Elevator Maintenance Contract: Schindler's now hold the contract. Ralph
Robole stated Schindler's were in to evaluate the elevator. They stated it would cost $6,600.00
to repair the elevator vs. a $20,000 estimate from Lagerquist. Lagerquist would like to regain
our business.
Mental Health Waiting List Strategies: Currently, indigent and/or Medical Assistance clients
who cannot obtain mental health outpatient services elsewhere are on our #1 priority for
outpatient mental health services. This means that potential clients who are private pay or have
health insurance may be referred elsewhere or placed at the bottom of the waiting list.
This obviously has a negative impact on revenues. An alternative policy would be to prioritize
our waiting list by segment (indigent, Medical Assistance, private pay, insurance) and move
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clients off the waiting list by segment.
Ron Kiesler and Steve Kirt stated we are currently operating by seeing clients with Medical
Assistance coverage and insurance equally without having to prioritize clients. With the
exception that when the waiting list gets too long, the insurance persons are referred elsewhere.
The waiting list at present is 16, and it has been as high as 35. On March 20th, 1995, the
Mental Health Therapist who was on maternity leave will be back, so the waiting list will be
minimal or none at all. Mr. Kiesler stated that through a lot of hard work and a small miracle,
we have filled the psychologist position. Gust Jenson will begin this position effective 02/28/95.
Mike DeSanctis has been released from his contract. Mr. Kiesler stated that Dr. Jenson excels
in child psychology and worked very effectively with our staff and psychiatrists previously. Mr.
Kiesler stated Dr. Jenson will be a great asset to our agency.
Out -of --state training request: Karen Hall stated there are two people who wish to attend the one
day workshop on "Developmental Disabilities - Who Are Aging" in Northfield, Minnesota, Ms.
Hall stated the workshop will be addressing behaviors on some who have come out of
institutions. Ms. Hall also stated they are looking at bringing in speakers to our agency for all
our staff to benefit. The cost for this workshop is mileage, lunch and the registration fee of
$35.00 per person.
MOTION:
A motion was introduced by George Sinclear, seconded by Chris Bethke, and unanimously
adopted:
That the Health and Human Services Board approve the request for two persons to attend the
out -of --state training on Developmental Disabilities to cover mileage, lunch and the registration
fee of $35.00 per person.
River Ridge Rehabilitation Contract: River Ridge Rehabilitation has submitted a request to
extend their contract by two years (expires 02/28/95). Corporation Counsel has been contacted
and Mr. Borup and Greg Timmerman met with River Ridge and came to an agreement to get
the building up to code. The total amount was $1, 400, of which $1,150.00 River Ridge
Rehabilitation would pay and St. Croix County would pay $250.00. The verbal agreement
between River Ridge Rehabilitation and St. Croix County was the rent would remain as the
previous year for the next two years and to expire 02/28/97. Mr. Borup asked if they should
proceed with the contract, sign it and bring it in.
Mr. Stephens stated contracts regarding county rentals should go by the County Board rule
which needs to be followed. The County Board Chair is to sign such contracts. Mr. Borup
stated that in the past he has been directed to sign such contracts. Discussion followed.
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A motion was introduced by Robert Stephens, seconded by Chris Bethke, and unanimously
adopted:
That the Health and Human Services Board move to have the contract signed for the rental
agreement between River Ridge Rehabilitation and St. Croix County to expire 02/28/97 with rent
to remain the same as the previous year.
1996 Funding Issues: Mr. Borup stated 1995 was a tough budget year. We anticipate 1996
will be tougher. With expected federal changes and a shifting of one billion dollars in taxes
from the property taxes, we are very concerned. We have not issued program cut proposals
because of uncertainty of funding as well as not wanting to create unnecessary anxiety for staff
and clients. Karen Bailey, Robert Boche, and John Borup attended a board members, directors,
and legislators meeting on 01/13/95 to discuss funding concerns. Mr. Borup stated if the
funding is not there, we will have to discontinue programs, which would mean we would have
to lay some people off. This is something we do not want to do. Governor Thompson's budget
is scheduled for release on 0244-95. Mr. Borup distributed copies of a survey of counties and
potential impact of cuts. Based on these estimates cuts over the next two years could be in
excess of $800,000 to Health and Human Service programs.
Review of State Mandate List: Mr. Borup distributed a list of mandates. This list includes
Governor Thompsons task force findings and additions not covered by the task force, Mr.
Borup feels this list is important to use if programs need to be cut due to budget cuts.
Discussion followed.
Health and Hiiman Services/Nursing Home Report: Carolyn Krieger stated she will have a
report at the 02/10/95 Health and Human Services Board meeting regarding the remodeling in
the nursing home. Ms. Krieger stated she has contacted Job Services and high schools to help
recruit nursing staff. She also has met with Personnel to discuss a wage increase for nursing
staff. Discussion followed.
On 02/10/95, someone from More 4 Pharmacy will be attending the Health and Human Services
Board meeting to discuss unit dose. Ms. Krieger stated she has tracked with letters over the
years regarding timely and accurate billing from the pharmacies. She stated this affects the daily
rate. If the bills do not come in on a timely manner, we lose money. She stated with unit dose
this will double the problem as there will be more clients. It was suggested that in the contract
for unit dose it should state that if there are any errors or late billing, More 4 will cover that
cost. Discussion followed.
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Financial Report: Mr. Borup stated Judy Ziegler is now working on closing the 94 books. 1994
bills are accepted thru 01-31-95. Mr Borup stated that Human Services numbers remain stable.
We hope to have year end projections by mid -February.
Mr. Nyland distributed a letter from Greg Timmerman, Corporation Counsel regarding the Open
Meeting Laws and the Closed Session Exceptions. Mr. Stephens asked what are they going to
do if I violate the law, slap my hands? Vice Chair Nyland told him not to ever say such things.
Mr. Weld will attend the meeting on 02/ 10/95 . John Borup emphasized the need to not make
any statements that will compromise the County's position.
Vice Chair Nyland asked if there were any other issues to bring before the Board for discussion.
MOTION:
A motion was introduced by Robert Stephens, seconded by Chris Bethke, and unanimously
adopted:
That the meeting be adjourned.
Time: 8:50 P.M.
Chairman:
Attest:
Secretary