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NOTICE OF MEETING AND AGENDA
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, 2007 8:30 A.M.
ST CROIX COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER, ROOM 1281
1101 CARMICHAEL ROAD, HUDSON, WI
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
DATE OF NEXT MEETING
OLD AND NEW BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARING:
WAIVER FROM LAND DIVISION REGULATIONS
APPLICANT: Robert and Susan Rolle
LOCATION: Govt. Lot 5, Sections 35 & 36, T28N, R20W, Town of Troy
ADDRESS: 218 So. Ilwaco Road, River Falls
REQUEST: Waiver of 3:1 lot ratio for lots 1 & 2 in submitted CSM, pursuant to section
13.7G.2.h of the St. Croix County Land Division Ordinance
APPLICANT: Ronald and Delores Spangenberg
LOCATION: NEIA ofNE1 /4, Section 8, T29N, R19W, Town of St. Joseph
ADDRESS: 501 Nelson Farm Lane, Hudson
REQUEST: Reduce setback line to 50', pursuant to section 13.1013 of the St. Croix County
Land Division Ordinance
APPLICANT: David and Linda Lindquist
LOCATION: NWIA ofNWl/4, Section 4, T29N, R15W, Town of Springfield
ADDRESS: 2909 County Road DD, Glenwood City
REQUEST: Reduce setback line to 50', pursuant to section 13.10B of the St. Croix County
Land Division Ordinance.
Discussion of plats and CSM's that are currently in the review process.
1. Planning and ZoninLy Business
a. Bills, Invoices and Revenue Report
b. Municipal Plats
c. Waivers and rezones to be scheduled
d. Code Administration Report
e. Real Property Lister Update
f. 2008 Budget
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND CORRESPONDENCE:
POSSIBLE AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING:
ADJOURNMENT (Agenda not necessarily presented in this order)
SUBMITTED BY: St. Croix County Planning and Zoning Department
DATE: September 13, 2007
COPIES TO: County Board Office Committee Members County Clerk
News Media/Notice Board
*CANCELLATIONS/ CHANGES /ADDITIONS
PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE
The St. Croix County Planning and Zoning Committee will be conducting a public hearing
on Tuesday, September 25, 2007, at 8:30 a.m. at the St. Croix County Government Center, 1101
Carmichael Rd., Hudson, Wisconsin, to consider the following petition(s):
WAIVER FROM LAND DIVISION REGULATIONS
APPLICANT: Robert and Susan Rolle
LOCATION: Govt. Lot 5, Sections 35 & 36, T28N, R20W, Town of Troy
ADDRESS: 218 So. Ilwaco Road, River Falls
REQUEST: Waiver of 3:1 lot ratio for lots 1 & 2 in submitted CSM, pursuant to
section 13.7G.2.h of the St. Croix County Land Division Ordinance
APPLICANT: Ronald and Delores Spangenberg
LOCATION: NE1 /4 of NE1 /4, Section 8, T29N, R19W, Town of St. Joseph
ADDRESS: 501 Nelson Farm Lane, Hudson
REQUEST: Reduce setback line to 50', pursuant to section 13.1OB of the St. Croix
County Land Division Ordinance
APPLICANT: David and Linda Lindquist
LOCATION: NW1 /4 ofNWl /4, Section 4, T29N, R15W, Town of Springfield
ADDRESS: 2909 County Road DD, Glenwood City
REQUEST: Reduce setback line to 50', pursuant to section 13.1OB of the St. Croix
County Land Division Ordinance.
Information on this petition may be obtained from the office of the Planning and Zoning
Department, Hudson, St. Croix County, Wisconsin. In the case of cancellation of this
hearing, such notice will be announced on WIXK. and WEVR Radio Stations, or call the
Planning and Zoning Department at 715- 386 -4680 before 5:00 p.m.
Wallace Habhegger, Chair
Planning and Zoning Committee
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MINUTES
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE
ST. CROIX COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER, HUDSON WI
September 25, 2007
Present:
Committee: Supervisors Lois Burri, Wally Habhegger, Gene Ruetz, Stan Krueger
Absent: Ron Troyer, excused.
Staff: Dave Fodroczi, Alex Blackburn, Kevin Grabau, Ellen Denzer, Judy Olson
Guests: Bob Rolle, David Lockwood, David Lindquist, George Lundgren, Peter Thompson,
Ron Spangenberg, Peter Lockwood, Ron Carlson, Ken Tilsen, Jim & Judy Freund, Helen
Lockwood, Susan Meyers, Sandy Griswold, Jon Sonnentag, Buzz Marzolf
Call to Order: Chair Habhegger called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.
Adoption of Agenda: Motion by Krueger, 2nd by Burri to adopt the agenda. Motion carried.
Approval of Previous Minutes: Motion by Ruetz to approve the minutes of August 14, August
28 and September 11, 2007. Motion 2nd by Burri and carried.
Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday, October 9 or Wednesday, OctoberlOth at 8:30 a.m., depending
on which day there will be a quorum.
Old and New Business:
The public hearing notice was acknowledged for the record.
WAIVER FROM LAND DIVISION REGULATIONS
APPLICANT: Robert and Susan Rolle
LOCATION: Govt. Lot 5, Sections 35 & 36, T28N, R20W, Town of Troy
ADDRESS: 218 So. Ilwaco Road, River Falls
REQUEST: Waiver of 3:1 lot ratio for lots 1 & 2 in submitted CSM, pursuant to section
13.7G.2.h of the St. Croix County Land Division Ordinance
Alex Blackburn reviewed the waiver request and staff report. The staff report explained the facts
pertaining to this application and three ways that these lots could be created without a waiver. The
staff report also stated that the Town of Troy has granted an exception to design standards for a
greater than 3:1 front to back average lot ratio on lots I and 2. Staff then recommended denial of
this request.
Mr. Rolle presented two other concepts for subdividing his property, one for 10 lots and one for four
lots. The four -lot concept which meets the 3 -1 ratio requirement, received approval from the town.
He chose a three -lot design as submitted. He stated that he wishes to develop this land himself in
the best way possible rather than sell it to a developer. The Town of Troy wants to preserve its rural
character rather than promote urban development. He explained the reasons for the design
submitted. It will not create additional accesses and will not intrude on neighboring properties. He
is trying to preserve the property in its natural state.
Jon Sonnentag, representing S & N Land Surveying, stated the reason for creating the three -lot
design requiring the waiver from the 3:1 ratio. This design does not create any infrastructure
problems and meets the intent of the ordinance.
The following persons spoke in opposition of the waiver request:
Peter Thompson, 224 South Ilwaco Road, read his letter stating his opposition to this subdivision
listing violations by Mr. Rolle as well as suggestions for lots with more reasonable design. He
stated that there is no hardship and no grounds for a waiver. There are other options which include
keeping the property as is. He requested the waiver be denied.
George Lundgren, 228 South Ilwaco Road, stated that no hardship exists. There is no need for the
waiver and there is no sense to creating lots this size.
Helen Lockwood, adjoining property owner, stated that they can see other houses, even with the
density of the trees on the Rolle property. She does not want close neighbors. The narrowness of
the proposed lots will create more problems.
Ron Carlson, Lakeland, Minnesota, representing the Wisconsin Chapter Sierra Club, St. Croix
Valley Interstate Group which has one -third of its membership in Wisconsin, stated his opposition
to this development. The group is following redevelopment and modifications of the Riverway
Ordinance in all communities on the Wisconsin side of the St. Croix River. The DNR revised its
Riverway rules and as a result all communities had to revise their ordinances to match NR118 State
requirements for the Riverway. Some communities seized the opportunity to rewrite ordinances in
a way that liberalized the requirements creating loopholes that the Sierra Club is not happy about.
The Sierra Club is intent on keeping the Riverway rules. The Town of Troy is a notable example of
trying to manipulate the ordinance to its advantage. The Sierra Club is dedicated to preserving the
St. Croix River Valley. The area from Stillwater to Prescott is a particular challenge. He stressed
that communities need to play by the rules. This is a serious example of inappropriate development,
exploiting the River frontage. Lots should not be created that are not suitable and require a
variance. These lots are not suitable for residential development. Troy sets a bad example of River
stewardship. The local DNR has in the past been a solid defense against River exploitation, but
unfortunately, with the rule changes in recent years, has lost its authority to potentially veto or
seriously discourage this type of development. Carlson commended St. Croix County on keeping
and enforcing its Riverway Ordinance.
Sandy Griswold, 318 North Cove Road, stated her concern about the Mr. Rolle serving on the Town
of Troy plan commission. Anyone planning redevelopment should not serve on the plan
commission. It gives the impression of manipulation. Mr. Rolle responded that he took a 90 -day
leave of absence from the plan commission.
Kenneth Tilsen, 264 Cove Road, spoke on behalf of Cove Road residents. He asked when they will
have opportunity to deal with Town of Troy's changes in the Riverway ordinance. Under what
circumstances will this come before the board and they can point out results of proposed changes.
He stated that this is an inappropriate site and a variance will be required to build on the site if the
request is approved. He asked that this request be denied.
Buzz Marzolf, 276 Salishan Drive, reiterated the concern as stated by Senator Gaylord Nelson about
the need to "protect the Riverway from cuts and nicks and to preserve our wonderful resource." We
must not allow irresponsible development. He asked committee members to use their conscience, to
look at what we are leaving to future generations. He then stated that, as a question of ethics, Mr.
Rolle should have recused himself from the Town of Troy plan commission.
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Mr. Rolle spoke in response to comments. He invited the Executive Committee of the Sierra Club
to visit his property at anytime. He stated that some of those who are objecting have less than one
acre buildable area on their properties. His property has dense woods. He stated that the Town has
the same regulations as the County. He is trying to create conforming looking lots. He invited
everyone to come and look at the property.
With no one else wishing to speak, Chair Habhegger closed the public hearing.
Motion by Krueger to deny this request per staff recommendations with the following findings; #3)
A waiver may not be based on mere inconvenience or financial hardship to the subdivider or a self -
created hardship of the subdivider and #5) A waiver shall provide only the minimum relief
necessary to alleviate the hardship. Since these lots can be created without a waiver the minimum
relief necessary is none. Motion 2nd by Ruetz and carried unanimously.
APPLICANT: Ronald and Delores Spangenberg
LOCATION: NE 1 A of NE1 /4, Section 8, T29N, R19W, Town of St. Joseph
ADDRESS: 501 Nelson Farm Lane, Hudson
REQUEST: Reduce setback line to 50', pursuant to section 13.1 OB of the St. Croix County
Land Division Ordinance
Blackburn reviewed the request and staff report. Staff recommends denial of this request.
Ron Spangenberg stated that his current house is closer than 75 feet from the road. The Town of St.
Joseph denied his request, stating that he could locate the building on another part of the lot. He
showed that no other place on the lot would be suitable for building.
Chair Habhegger closed the public hearing.
Motion by Krueger to deny this request based on staff findings and stated that the Committee does
not want to go against the Town. Motion 2nd by Burri and carried unanimously.
APPLICANT: David and Linda Lindquist
LOCATION: NWIA ofNWI /4, Section 4, T29N, R15W, Town of Springfield
ADDRESS: 2909 County Road DD, Glenwood City
REQUEST: Reduce setback line to 50', pursuant to section 13. l OB of the St. Croix County
Land Division Ordinance.
Blackburn reviewed the request and the staff report with staff recommending conditional
approval. Mr. Lindquist spoke about the reasons for the request. He plans to build a six foot
addition to the front of his house. Town of Springfield has approved the request. Blackburn
explained the reason to request the setback reduction from 100 feet to 50 feet.
Chair Habhegger closed the public hearing.
Motion by Ruetz to approve the request with conditions based on staff recommendation and
findings. Motion 2nd by Burri and carried unanimously.
The Committee recessed at 10:04 a.m. and reconvened at 10:16 a.m.
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Discussion of plats and CSM's that are currently in the review process
Blackburn reviewed the summary of land division submittals for August and September and
provided copies of corresponding letters sent to applicants.
Planning and Zoning Business —
Bills, Invoices and Revenue Report — The Zoning bills and revenue reports for August 2007
were reviewed by Committee members and signed by Chair Habhegger.
Municipal Plats — none
Waivers and Rezonings to be Scheduled — No rezones and no waivers were submitted this
month. There was discussion concerning holding only one meeting each month with extra public
hearings as needed.
Code Administration Report - Kevin — no report.
Real Property Lister Update - Fodroczi reported on his latest communication with the City of
Hudson. City Administrator Devin Willi sent correspondence saying that the City IT department
will be doing some testing in October. It has retooled the data base. There has been no response
from Mike Wallace. Fodroczi and Habhegger will talk to Mr. Wallace today to find out if the
City can commit to transferring real property listing to the County or continue as is.
2008 Budget - Fodroczi distributed an update of the budget sheet with changes since the
Committee acted. The update reflects adjustments to personnel and health insurance costs by
Finance Director Michelle Pietrick. The projected 2008 levy number went down and overall
expenses are up only 1.38 percent. Motion by Burri to accept the new September 25 budget
figures. Motion 2nd by Ruetz and carried.
Fodroczi reviewed recent WCA resolutions. None affect this department or this Committee.
Meeting adjourned at 10:45 a.m.
Respectfully submitted:
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dy Olson(/Recording Secretary Stan Krueger, S cretary
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