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AGENDA
ST. CROIX COUNTY
NOTICE OF COMMITTEE MEETING
TO: Clarence "Buck" Malick, Chairman, St. Croix County Board
FROM: Jan Zoerb, Chairperson
COMMITTEE TITLE: Planning and Zoning Committee
DATE: Wednesday, March 23, 2005
TIME: 7:00 p.m.
LOCATION: St. Croix County Agricultural Center, Baldwin, Wl
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
DATE OF NEXT MEETING:
ACTION ON PREVIOUS MINUTES:
NEW BUSINESS: Discussion only — No action
Public information meeting regarding the proposed Land Division Ordinance and the
proposed Complementary Changes to Chapter 17, Zoning; Ordinance. The committee
and staff will present the most recent versions of these amendments that were
considered last August by the County Board.
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND CORRESPONDENCE:
POSSIBLE AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING:
ADJOURNMENT (Agenda not necessarily presented in this order)
SUBMITTED BY: St. Croix County Zoning Office
DATE: March 8, 2005
COPIES TO: County Board Office Committee Members County Clerk News Media/Notice Board
*CANCELLATIONS/ CHANGES /ADDITIONS
MINUTES
St. Croix County Planning and Zoning Committee
March 23, 2005
St. Croix County Agricultural Center, Baldwin, Wisconsin
Committee members present: Supervisors Jan Zoerb, Lois Burn, Buck Malick, Wally
Habhegger and Brian Hurtgen
Staff present: Dave Fodroczi, Robert Bezek, Alex Blackburn and Deb Murphy
Chairperson Zoerb called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and explained the meeting process.
Dave Fodroczi explained that this meeting is for public information and is not a hearing. There
were handouts available that summarized public comments and related changes for the Land Use
Ordinance, as well as a handout of the proposed timeline for this process. Focroczi went over
the public comments section by section.
Chapter 17
A comment was made regarding setbacks for non - conforming sites /lots and how can a map be
modified to change the setbacks that are located on a particular map. Staff said that some type of
correction instrument would be needed to take care of that.
Land Division Ordinance comments:
• Some towns expressed an interest in a cooperative agreement with the county regarding
subdivisions. This would be for towns that have their own subdivision ordinance. The
county would be willing to work with them.
• Thoughts were expressed on the fact that some towns are more "progressive" than others
where this ordinance is concerned, and those towns are "holding up" this ordinance for
the rest of the towns that are interested in having this ordinance passed. This proposed
ordinance will work well for the majority of the towns.
• Some language on page 26 needs to be changed to comply with the Rock County case
regarding town roads.
• Concerns were expressed on the limitation of slope disturbance to a certain percentage.
If the county wants to preserve farmland, they need to allow disturbance of slopes in
order to develop the less desirable farmland. Plats /CSMs can be engineered to deal with
slopes with very little impact to the land.
• Concerns were expressed on flag lots and how the language reads with regard to length of
driveways.
• Ghost platting was discussed and there was opposition to the wording being proposed.
The developers and surveyors have submitted several comments to the staff and
committee on this issue, and staff will be reviewing with the committee. It was suggested
to leave this issue up to the cities and villages.
• Question raised on submittal requirements for CSMs. In the new ordinance there are
provisions for submittal of CSMs without town approval at the submittal stage. Some of
the towns have expressed that they want the benefit of the county review before they
sign -off on a CSM.
• Rounding Rule - The general feeling is that it does not need a bonus. 25% is good.
• Comments were made that overall this is a good ordinance, and there are just a few
changes that need to be made.
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• Questions were raised on review time for the plats. The proposed ordinance allows 90
days for review of preliminary plats and 45 days for review of final plat. Staff talked to
plat review in Madison and they referenced Chapter 236 which allows local authorities
90 days for review of preliminary plat and 60 days for review of final plat.
Chairperson Zoerb thanked everyone for coming and reminded the towns that any ideas from
them that will help the committee and staff to go in the right direction on these ordinance
changes would be appreciated.
After all comments were received, Zoerb declared the meeting adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
Debra Murphy, Recorder Buck Malick, Secretary
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MINUTES
St. Croix County Planning and Zoning Committee
March 23, 2005
St. Croix County Agricultural Center, Baldwin, Wisconsin
Committee members present: Supervisors Jan Zoerb, Lois Burri, Buck Malick, Wally
Habhegger and Brian Hurtgen
Staff present: Dave Fodroczi, Robert Bezek, Alex Blackburn and Deb Murphy
Chairperson Zoerb called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and explained the meeting process.
Dave Fodroczi explained that this meeting is for public information and is not a hearing. There
were handouts available that summarized public comments and related changes for the Land Use
Ordinance, as well as a handout of the proposed timeline for this process. Focroczi went over
the public comments section by section.
Chapter 17
A comment was made regarding setbacks for non - conforming sites /lots and how can a map be
modified to change the setbacks that are located on a particular map. Staff said that some type of
correction instrument would be needed to take care of that.
Land Division Ordinance comments:
• Some towns expressed an interest in a cooperative agreement with the county regarding
subdivisions. This would be for towns that have their own subdivision ordinance. The
county would be willing to work with them.
• Thoughts were expressed on the fact that some towns are more "progressive" than others
where this ordinance is concerned, and those towns are "holding up" this ordinance for
the rest of the towns that are interested in having this ordinance passed. This proposed
ordinance will work well for the majority of the towns.
• Some language on page 26 needs to be changed to comply with the Rock County case
regarding town roads.
• Concerns were expressed on the limitation of slope disturbance to a certain percentage.
If the county wants to preserve farmland, they need to allow disturbance of slopes in
order to develop the less desirable farmland. Plats /CSMs can be engineered to deal with
slopes with very little impact to the land.
• Concerns were expressed on flag lots and how the language reads with regard to length of
driveways.
• Ghost platting was discussed and there was opposition to the wording being proposed.
The developers and surveyors have submitted several comments to the staff and
committee on this issue, and staff will be reviewing with the committee. It was suggested
to leave this issue up to the cities and villages.
• Question raised on submittal requirements for CSMs. In the new ordinance there are
provisions for submittal of CSMs without town approval at the submittal stage. Some of
the towns have expressed that they want the benefit of the county review before they
sign -off on a CSM.
• Rounding Rule - The general feeling is that it does not need a bonus. 25% is good.
• Comments were made that overall this is a good ordinance, and there are just a few
changes that need to be made.
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• Questions were raised on review time for the plats. The proposed ordinance allows 90
days for review of preliminary plats and 45 days for review of final plat. Staff talked to
plat review in Madison and they referenced Chapter 236 which allows local authorities
90 days for review of preliminary plat and 60 days for review of final plat.
Chairperson Zoerb thanked everyone for coming and reminded the towns that any ideas from
them that will help the committee and staff to go in the right direction on these ordinance
changes would be appreciated.
After all comments were received, Zoerb declared the meeting adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
Debra Murphy, Recor - t7 Buck Malick, Secretary
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PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE
The St. Croix County Board of Adjustment has scheduled a public hearing for Thursday,
March 24, 2005 at 8:30 a.m. at the Government Center, 1101 Carmichael Road, Hudson,
Wisconsin, to consider the following appeals to the St. Croix County Zoning Ordinance.
The Board will view each site in question, after which the Board will deliberate and vote on
the appeals.
1. ARTICLE: Special Exception request for a permit to construct a mechanical lift
on the property to allow access to the St. Croix River pursuant to
Section 17.36(6)(a)4.
APPELLANT: Eric Sullivan
LOCATION: Government Lot 2, Section 26, T28N -RZOW, Town of Troy
ADDRESS: 177A Glenmont Road, River Falls, WI 54022
2. ARTICLE: Amend Condition #10 of the Jon -De Farm, Inc Board of
Adjustment Decision dated May 10, 2000 pursuant to Section
17.70(7)(g). The request is to change the application rate of
manure on the property.
APPELLANT: Jon -De Farm, Inc.
LOCATION: The NW 1 /4 of the NE 1 /4, Section 24, T28N -RI 7W, Town of Rush
River
ADDRESS: 2061 30 Avenue, Baldwin, WI 54002
3. ARTICLE: Variance request for an after- the -fact permit to allow an existing
structure, that encroaches 19 -feet within the OHWM setback of
Bass Lake, to remain on the property pursuant to Section 17.31(2).
APPELLANT: Steven J. and Pamela K. Hirsch
LOCATION: Part of the SW %4 of the NW '/4, the NW %4 of the SW '/4 and Gov.
Lots 6 and 7 of Section 26, T30N -R19W, Town of St. Joseph
ADDRESS: 1349 Awatukee Trail, Hudson, WI 54016
All interested persons are invited to attend said hearing and be heard. Additional
information may be obtained from the St. Croix County Planning and Zoning Office,
Hudson, Wisconsin at (715) 386 -4680.
Julie Speer, Chairperson
St. Croix County Board of Adjustment