HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning & Development Committee 01-26-1993MINUTES
PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
JANUARY 26, 1993
ST. CROIX COUNTY COURTHOUSE, COUNTY BOARD ROOM, flUDSON, WI
PRESENT: Chairperson Tom Dorsey; Supervisors Linda Luckey,
William Oemichen, George Menter and Robert Boche. Staff
present were Joe Grant, Tom Nelson, Mary Jenkins, Brian
Halling, Dave Fodroczi, John Krizek, and Rosemary Olson.
Guests in attendance were Larry Murphy, Al Nyhagen, County
Board Chairperson Richard Peterson, Cyril Cernohous, Don
Norell, Don Mueller, Marlene Hintz and Roland Rivard from
the New Richmond News.
Chairperson Dorsey called the meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.
Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to adopt the amended agenda.
Motion carried. Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter to
approve the December 15, 1992 and the December 22, 1992 minutes
as mailed to the Committee. Motion carried. Luckey discussed
the Transportation Committee minutes from December regarding the
County Surveyor's request to attend a conference and which
committee, the Transportation or Planning & Development
Committee, would make the decision on the request.
Bills & Invoices
Grant distributed and reviewed a copy of the December bills.
Some of the bills had been signed by Chairperson Dorsey and
additional bills were added to the list for signature --totalling
$4,859.79. Discussion on the benefits of belonging to WI
IndianHead and other ways to advertise the Parks without the
IndianHead membership. Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Boche to
approve the bills as presented. Motion carried.
Supervisor Boche asked Grant what pay range he was in, what
benefits he gets with the house and what expenses he pays for in
the house. Boche then asked how many employees he has this time
of the year. Grant reported that he has two full-time employees
and one part-time employee and explained what work is done during
the winter and slow months.
Guard Rail at Boat Landing
Grant explained that last year the County hired Peter Boss, a
consultant, to evaluate all departments to reduce the liability
in the County. Boss determined that a guard rail should be put
in at the boat landing at Glen Hills Park. The Committee had
requested this railing a year or two ago but it was cut by
Finance. The rail would be approximately, 600 feet long and the
cost would be approximately $10,000. The Committee requested
that Grant get estimates on the cost of putting in.the guard rail
and report back to the Committee at the February meeting. The
guard rail would be put in after the frost goes out.
Camping Fees
Grant distributed and reviewed a copy of 1991/1992 comparisons
with camping unit days, revenues from camping, current fees
established in 1990 and unit days from Memorial Day through Labor
Day. He noted that in peak periods occupancy is running about 85
percent. Grant then distributed and reviewed a copy of a
telephone survey he did of area camping rates. Some were
privately owned, some were federal parks and state parks, and all
have similar facilities as Glen Hills Park. Grant recommended
increasing the camping fees to $8.00 for a primitive site and
$10.00 for an electrical site. This would help offset the cost
of operations. Grant noted that the people who visit the park
are 50 percent Wisconsin residents, 40 percent Minnesota
residents and 10 percent are other. Visitors from St. Croix
County are approximately 25 - 30 percent. Motion by Menter,
seconded by Oemichen to increase the camping fees to $8.00 for a
primitive site and $10.00 for an electrical site. Motion
carried. Boche voted against.
Snowmobile Report
Grant reported that the groomer started January 15th. The
conditions were marginal prior to that date. He has been around
the trail system four times. Grant stated that he received a
call from the Chicago/Northwestern Railroad complaining of
problems with snowmobilers running the railroad right of way
along the frontage roads in Wilson, Knapp and Hersey areas.
Grant said he reported this to the County Sheriff's Department.
The Sheriff's Department will be enforcing the trespassing law in
those areas and notice has been posted in bars and businesses
along with a news release warning snowmobilers of the
consequences if caught trespassing on the railroad right-of-ways.
Discussion on the money available for enforcement of the
snowmobile trails from the DNR. Chairperson Dorsey suggested
that this 'matter be turned over to the Public Protection
Committee. Grant further stated that warning signs will be put
up along the trails as a reminder to the snowmobilers.
As presented by Mary Jenkins:
Don Mueller
NE 1/4 of the NW 1/4 & the SE 1/4 of the NW 1/4, Section 17,
T28N-R18W, Town of Kinnickinnic
2 Lots - 11.29 acres, Original - same
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to label NW
section corner; Lot 3 acreage including R/W is incorrect; show
total length of east line - lot 3; curve #11 the chord bearing
should be 36 54118W; curve #2 - the arc length should be 168.521;
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in the description, line 14 - "containing" is misspelled; line 20
- "complied" is misspelled; add general notice statement;
driveway separation must be met on lot 2.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Boche to
conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
Gloria Asmussen & Leland Wolfgang
SW 1/4 of the NE 1/4, Section 3, T29N-R18W, Town of Kinnickinnic
1 Lot - 6.712 acres, Original - 180 acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to add
highway setback line; typo in general notice statement - "etc".
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Boche, seconded by Oemichen to
conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
Harvey Hielkema
SW 1/4 of the SE 1/4, & the SE 1/4 of the SW 1/4, Section 36,
T28N-R17W, Town of Rush River
1 Lot - 4.347 acres, Original - 160 acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS; Conditional approval subject to add
highway setback lines; the distance from the SE corner of Lot 1
to the SE corner Section 36 should be 2210.23; in the Surveyor's
Certificate forgot the "s" in "as shown".
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Menter, seconded by Luckey to
conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
Dan Davis
SW 1/4 of the SW 1/4 & the NW 1/4 of the SW 1/4, Section 6,
T29N-R19W, Town of St. Joseph
1 Lot - 3.00 acres, Original - 64.5 acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional, approval subject to adding
general notice statement.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Luckey, seconded by Menter to
conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
Scott Counter
SE 1/4 of the SE 1/4 & the SW 1/4 of the SE
T31N-R18W, Town of Star Prairie
3 Lots - 16 acres, Original - same
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval
conditions ( Lot 2 cannot be subdivided until
remaining unplatted land is developed, or a cul
the end of Outlot 1 to allow for a turn around
road); soil test; add total distance on west
general notice statement; use of outlot for a
should be stated on map.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Boche, seconded
conditionally approve per staff recommendations.
1/4, Section 28,
subject to Town
such time as the
de sac placed at
at the end of the
side, lot 1; add
private driveway
by Oemichen to
Motion carried.
Jenkins reported that she and Nelson had met with Corporation
Counsel in regard to allowing an outlot to serve as a road.
Discussion on changing the word "road" in the last condition to
say "driveway" as Lot 2 takes access from 192nd Avenue. If only
one lot takes access, the "way" is a driveway, not a road.
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MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS
As presented by Tom Nelson:
Country Oaks, Town of Troy, Developer Tarry Murphy
Nelson stated that the Zoning Office has received the necessary
information and signatures from the state. The escrow money has
been sent back to the Town after receiving a letter from the Town
of Troy. This plat has been approved previously and all that is
needed at this time is the Chair's signature.
ZONING-BUSIIJESS
Bills, Invoices & Revenue Report
Nelson distributed and reviewed a list of Zoning bills previously
signed by Chairperson Dorsey, with three additional bills for
signature totalling $4,793.54. Motion by Boche, seconded by
Menter to approve the December bills. Motion carried.
Chairperson Dorsey requested that the minutes show that the
revenue report was reviewed and approved.
County Board Chairperson Richard Peterson asked Nelson how the WI
Fund is doing. Nelson stated that the future looks bleak for the
program. The Governor is proposing new policy for cutting money
for tax relief. He further noted that the program has helped
many people in the past to replace failing systems.
Violations & Citations
Nelson distributed a packet of current violations and citations.
Discussion.
Rezonements
Arthur Feyereisen, Town of Troy, 3.01 acres from ag to ag
residential
Steven & Jeffrey Cudd, Saleshan Partnership, 11 acres added to
adjoining property which is in ag residential and a riverway
district, requesting a special exception.
The Committee will view both properties at the February Committee
meeting on the lunch break.
The hearing will be Monday, March 1st - 7:30 p.m. at the Troy
Town Hall.
10:00 a.m. Ordinance Amendment
Nelson stated that Mr. Pulford was notified that the decision for
the amendment request was on the agenda for this meeting and
noted Mr. Pulford was not present. Motion by Menter, seconded by
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Bache to not approve the amendment because no Towns surveyed were
in favor of it; it would be difficult to enforce; other
alternatives are alredy available within the current ordinance;
and, there are density issues which lead to water, sewer, public
safety and health issues. Roll call vote, Menter - yes
Oemichen - yes, Boche - yes, Luckey - yes and Dorsey - yes.
Motion carried.
11:00 Outlots discussion
Jenkins stated that Zoning staff met with Corporation Counsel to
discuss the outlot issue and agreed that each outlot situation
should be looked at individually. The Committee decided that
this issue should be rescheduled for the February meeting and ask
Corporation Counsel Greg Timmerman to be present to discuss it
further.
Ordinance Administrative Training Seminars
Nelson distributed and reviewed a cop
the first Administrative Seminar to b
8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Nelson
registration forms will be sent out,
to gather data as to what areas of th
11:45 a.m. - recess for lunch.
Reconvene from lunch at 1:19 p.m.
1:30 p.m. Local Water Concerns
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Nelson stated that Supervisor Menter contacted him to inform him
of some concerns he received from residents in the Town of Hudson
on the well water problem. Nelson introduced Marlene Hintz
representing the Town of Hudson Well Committee. Hintz discussed
with the Committee the fact that realtors are not informing
potential buyers of the contaminated wells in the area and the
possibility of a parcel not having a water test prior to its
sale. She suggested that this information could be attached or
put on the deed or an ordinance be adopted to alert a potential
buyer to the possible problems. Nelson distributed a letter from
Ruth Johnson, who is in charge of the County Delegation Program,
to Chuck Christensen of the Land Conservation Office. Nelson had
highlighted the letter to show how the delegation program works
and would pertain to St. Croix County. He then distributed and
r@vi@w@d a copy of NR 145 and read from, NR145.05 pertaining to
County Well Permit Programs. Discussion on the poor well log
records kept in St. Croix County by the well drilling companies.
Nelson suggested that the County
The Committee agreed that Nelson
DNR to speak to the Committee at
meeting about this issue.
Town of St. Joseph Request
look into a delegation program.
should contact someone from the
the March Planning & Development
Nelson distributed a letter he received from the Town of St.
Joseph requesting $1,126.00 to purchase bleachers for the ball
field and $811.48 for renovating the ball field with new lime
rock. Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to give the Town of
St. Joseph permission to take $1,936.48 from the park fund money.
Motion carried.
Subdivision & Zoning Ordinance Amendments
Nelson stated that staff met to discuss amending the ordinances
and to discuss the direction and approach that should be taken in
amending the subdivision and zoning ordinances. Nelson
distributed a copy of the County Surveyor's concerns with the
existing ordinances.
Discussion on current fees for a state review. Nelson noted that
the County Surveyor would not do DILHR reviews, these would be
done by the Zoning Office when it was required. Discussion on
fees if done by the state or if by the County Surveyor. Nelson
suggested setting up a public hearing to see if the fee figure is
agreed upon. Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Luckey to schedule
this for a public hearing with the County Surveyor fee being
$25.00 per lot and also include a separate resubmittal fee for
the County Surveyor at $50.00 per plat. The fees will be
reviewed on an annual basis. Motion carried. A public hearing
date was set for 10:00 a.m. at the regularly scheduled Planning &
Development meeting on February 24th and a backup meeting for
March 1st at the Troy rezonement hearing.
Fodroczi distributed and reviewed copies of sample zoning
ordinances and highlighted the industrial and commercial portions
from Eau Claire County, Kenosha County and the Town of Fulton in
Rock County to be used as a comparison to our ordinance.
Fodroczi reviewed what was discussed at the Town of St. Joseph
meeting with their request of the County to amend our industrial
ordinance. He will be getting more information to be presented
to the Committee at the February meeting. He asked that the
Committee look over these ordinances and that they be discussed
at the next meeting.
Closed Session per WI Statue 1985.(1)(c), Evaluation of a Public
Employee (Zoning Administrator)
Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to go into closed session.
Roll call vote Menter - yes, Oemiohen - yea, Boohe - yes, Luckey
- yes and Dorsey - yes. Motion carried. Also present in the
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closed session were Administrative Coordinator John Krizek and
County Board Chairperson Richard Peterson.
A motion was made (Boche, Oemichen) and passed unanimously to
come out of closed session. During the closed session the
performance of the Zoning Administrator was evaluated.
PLANNING BUSINESS
Bills, Invoices & Revenue Report
Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Boche to approve the bills as
mailed to the Committee. Motion carried.
The Chairperson requested that the minutes show that the revenue
report was reviewed and approved.
Transportation Planning
Fodroczi reported that DOT has a public meeting set up for
February 16th at the Troy Town Hall on the Highway 35 corridor.
An official announcement will be coming out soon.
Economic Development Subcommittee
Oemichen distributed copies of the minutes of the Ad Hoc
Committee on Economic Development meeting on January 18th. The
next meeting is scheduled for February 17th at the 1st National
Bank in Hudson at 7:30 a.m.
Any Other Business
Fodroczi reported that he was chosen to be on a Quality
Improvement Team dealing with training and conference policy for
the County.
Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to adjourn at 5:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted:
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Linda Luckey, Secretary
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Rosemary Olson, Recording Sec.