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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning & Development Committee 02-24-1993PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MINUTES February 24, 1993 ST. CROIX COUNTY COURTHOUSE, COUNTY BOARD ROOM, HUDSON, WI COMMITTEE PRESENT: Supervisors Dorsey, Oemichen, Menter, Boche and Luckey. STAFF PRESENT: Tom Nelson, Mary Jenkins, Connie Juen, Ellen Denzer, Dave Fodroc.zi, Joe Grant, John Krizek, Brian Halling and Greg Timmerman. OTHERS PRESENT: Roy Leek, Darwin Huppert, Cyril Cernohous, Doug Zahler, Jo Ann Persico, Steven Henning, Jim Weber, Harvey Johnson, Allen Nyhagen, Frances H. Ogden, Dennis Schultz, Roland Rivard, David Sander, Martin P. Engel, Norman Rehder, Jay Griggs, Tom Holland and Denny Darnold. Meeting was called to order by Chairman Dorsey at 9:10 A.M. Oemichen made a motion to approve the agenda. Seconded by Boche. Motion carried. Motion by Menter, seconded by Oemichen to approve the minutes of Jan. 19, 1993 and Jan. 26, 1993. Motion carried. Date of the next meeting is Tuesday March 23, 1993. PARR BUSINESS BILLS AND INVOICES Grant submitted bills in the amount of $9434.93. Motion by Oemichen to approve bills, seconded by Boche. Motion carried. GUARD RAIL AT BOAT LANDING Grant submitted the estimates for the guard rail for the boat landing in Glen Hills Park as was discussed last month. Timme, Inc. $10,080.00 Hwy. Department $15,721.00 Discussion of price differences. Grant stated the specs are the same from both Timme and the Hwy. Department. Motion by Menter, seconded by Oemichen to select Timme for the project and to recommend to Finance that $10,080 be taken out of the contingency fund to pay for it. Motion carried. Grant is to go to the Finance Committee meeting in March and ask for the funding for this project. SNOWMOBILE REPORT Grant stated that St. Croix County is the only County in the state that hires a private party to groom the snowmobile trails. Discussion by Committee as to whether owning a grooming machine or hiring the grooming to be done is better. It was decided this should be checked into further. LAWN MOWER PRICE QUOTES - 9:30 A.M. Grant stated the specs for the new lawn mowers were sent to many dealerships for two new riding lawn mowers. The following are the price quotes from two implement dealerships with the trade in of the present lawn mowers included: Meyer Implement, Baldwin gave a price of $1,949.00. Green Implement, Osceola gave a price of $3,298.00. Both of the price quotes are for two F911 John Deer riding lawn mowers. Motion by Boche to choose Meyer Implement providing Meyer meets all of the specs. Seconded by Menter. Motion carried. ✓mav,[el HEARING: SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE 10:00 A.M. Tom Nelson read the notice as published. Now major plats have to be reviewed by DATCP & DILHR from the State. The proposal is that the major plats would be reviewed by the County Surveyor and the Zoning staff. Jo Ann Persico feels DILHR makes getting approval for a major plat too difficult. The Committee was asked if the ordinance could be applied retroactively to subdivisions already submitted to the State. The Committee stated that an ordinance amendment such as this could not be applied retroactively. State fees could be forfeited and a resubmittal be done through the County at an extra fee of $100 for the review plus $25 per lot. Motion by Oemichen to close the public hearing. Seconded by Boche. Motion by Oemichen to present this amendment to the County Board. Seconded by Luckey. MINOR SUBDIVISIONS 1. OWNER: CLARENCE MOLLER SURVEYOR: James Weber LOCATION: SW 1/4 of the NW 1/4 of Sec. 16, T28N-R16W, Town of Eau Galle 1 Lot - 19.75 acres, Original - 55 acres ZONING: Ag. Residential FEES: Paid SOIL TEST: Not required TOWN ACTION: Approved STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Conditional approval CONDITIONS: In the description, "S87°22'21"E" should be 41 E; in the description after 1119.75 acres" the word subject is repeated. STAFF ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. 2. OWNER: KLAUS STACKER SURVEYOR: James Weber LOCATION: NW 1/4 of the SW 1/4 and the SW 1/4 of the SW 1/4 of Section 29; T28N-R16W, Town of Eau Galle 3 Lots - 58.59 acres, Original - same ZONING: Ag. Residential FEES: Paid SOIL TEST: Not required TOWN ACTION: Approved STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Conditional approval CONDITIONS: File a tie sheet for SW corner, Section 29' the chord bearing should be S 77°08107"W; in the description 1360.44 should be 1306.44. COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Menter, seconded by Boche to conditionally approve per staff recommendation with the added condition to have the dwelling sketched on Lot 2 labeled "house". 3. OWNER: WILLIAM AND JEAN DAVIDSON SURVEYOR: Francis Ogden LOCATION: NW 1/4 of the NW 1/4 of Sec. 28, T28N-R18W, Town of Kinnickinnic 2 Lots - 5.998 acres, Original - same ZONING: Ag. Residential FEES: Paid SOIL TEST: On file TOWN ACTION: Approved STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Conditional approval CONDITIONS: Dimensions along W line of NW 1/4 don't add up; main R/W chord should be drawn with dashed line; in easement detail should be Pine Ridge Drive; lot 6 should not be underlined; minor changes in curve data table. COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Boche to give conditional approval per staff recommendations. Motion carried. 4.OWNER: PATRICK BELISLE SURVEYOR: Doug Zahler LOCATION: NE 1/4 of the NW 1/4 of Sec. 19, T31N-R18W, Town of Star Prairie 1 Lot - 4 acres, Original - 40 acres ZONING: Ag. Residential FEES: Paid SOIL TEST: Not on file TOWN ACTION: Approved STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Conditional approval CONDITIONS: Soil test; add 250' dimension to N lot line, lot 1. COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Boche, seconded by Oemichen to give conditional approval per staff recommendations. Motion carried. OUTLOTS A discussion between Committee and Greg Timmerman, Corporation Counsel was held concerning outlots. It was decided that each outlot situation should be looked at individually as previously stated in the January meeting. GLOVER STATION HEARING 11:00 A.M. Tom Nelson read the notice as published. Francis Ogden representing Glover Station is requesting a variance from the 133' road setback the Subdivision Ordinance requires for a collector road. He wants a variance on Lot 55 for a future town road as well as the existing town road. He is asking the setback be 83' on lots 47 and 55. He feels his hardship is that the plat was started years before the Ordinance stated the setback requirements. The township of Troy has no objections. Motion by Oemichen to grant the variance only on Lots 47 and 55 on the grounds that a hardship exists due to the difficult topography and the fact that the lots were planned when the rest of Glover Station was platted. Seconded by Luckey. Motion carried. / Francis Ogden presented the preliminary plat of Glover Station Third Addition for approval. There was a question by Committee about the dike shown on the map. Ogden stated that lots 46, 47 and 48 have low spots. He felt he should be conservative and add the dike even though he feels that those lots would never flood. The dike is not on one of the proposed lots. Maintenance would be done by the landowner. Staff supports the development. Oemichen made a motion to give preliminary approval for Glover Station subdivision, third addition, on the condition that the setback lines be shown on the final plat and that driveways be constructed on lots 48, 49, 52, 53 and the outlot for 54 and 55; also, the erosion control measures specified in Bob Heisie's letter of January 7, 1993 to Tom Dorsey are to be done as proposed. Seconded by Boche. Motion carried. Committee recessed at 11:45 for the viewing of the property to be rezoned in Troy Township and to view the Boody property. They also recessed for lunch at this time. Bill Oemichen was excused at 1:00 and returned to the meeting at 3:00. The meeting reconvened at 1:35. ST. CROIX RIVER ACCESS Marty Engel, DNR, asked to speak to the Committee regarding access to the St. Croix River. He has asked the Committee to discuss the Hudson access. He stated that the City of Hudson was found to be in violation of Rule 193 which provided that a "reasonable" fee is to be charged for the access. In order to be "reasonable", the fees must be comparable to that charged by State parks or else the municipality has to petition the State for approval of the fee. Hudson has a petition in progress. Engel asked the County if a site became available, would the County be willing to take on the maintenance of the access. The State will pay for the purchase of the landing and any major repairs. Norman Rehder, representing the St. Croix County Alliance of Sportsman Club stated there is need for additional accesses. The Alliance is in favor of the County's involvement. Committee asked Ellen Denzer to find out the extent of the County's involvement. This topic is to be put on the March agenda for a decision. LAND USE REGULATION ORDINANCE AMENDMENT Dave Sander, Land Conservation Office, questions the Subdivision Ordinance as to the reason for soil evaluations on all properties even if they are not going to be built on. He is questioning the County's right and liability to make people have soil evaluations. Committee will take this under advisement. APPLE RIVER/HUNTINGTON PROPERTY The question is whether the property should be surveyed to correct the boundary problems. Norman Rehder of the St. Croix Alliance of Sportsman's Clubs stated that they are willing to pay $3000 toward the cost of the survey. Ellen Denzer presented a map of the County property. She showed where markers would be placed and how lots and boundaries would be defined. Denzer suggested having the adjacent property owners get together for a meeting with the Committee. At this meeting the property owners would be asked if they would be willing to pay part of the survey cost. Committee instructed Denzer to notify the landowners and set the meeting date. ZONING Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Boche to approve the bills as sent to the Committee. Motion carried. Chairman Dorsey requested that the minutes show that the revenue report, as sent to the Committee, was reviewed and approved. Tom Nelson gave the Committee a copy of a violation in Eau Galle Township. Discussion. REZONEMENTS Richard Walton - Hammond Township - Ag. Res. to Commercial. Date: March 25, 1993 - 7:30 Viewing; 8:00 Meeting. Macchiaroli/Quist - Stanton Township - Agriculture to Ag. Res. Date: April 1, 1993 - 7:30 Viewing - 8:00 Meeting. ORDINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE SEMINAR Nelson wanted to remind the Committee of the seminar on March 13. ADULT ENTERTAINMENT Public Protection has sent this issue to the Zoning Department. A proposal for an ordinance for adult entertainment is requested. Oemichen stated that the Supreme Court states that adult entertainment cannot be banned altogether. He also stated that existing establishments would be grandfathered in. If an ordinance amendment were to be written, most likely an adult entertainment zoning district would be proposed. It would be added to our current list of districts and its requirements would be applied to any new establishments. Chairman Dorsey has requested Supervisors Oemichen and Luckey to draft wording for this ordinance. There was a discussion of the sign ordinance. Tom Nelson read a letter that was sent to him from Skoglund Signs. They listed their concerns with the present sign ordinance. Nelson stated that he felt the ordinance should be updated. WELL DELEGATION Nelson updated the Committee on the Well Delegation Program. Ken Christopherson DNR will be in the area on March 10 and would be available to meet with the Committee. The Committee will decide on March 1 at the Troy rezoning meeting as to what steps, if any, should be taken by the County. Darwin Huppert stated he would like to purchase a 100' strip of property from the County so that he could put in a drainage pipe to prevent his property from flooding. Water comes almost up to his house in the spring. It was decided the Committee should view the property before rendering a decision. The Committee had the opportunity to view the property before viewing the Troy property. Dave Fodroczi showed a map to the Committee explaining the area that Mr. Huppert wished to purchase. It was stated that three parties have offered $2000 for the property of 1001x30011. Boche suggested that the Committee look for a temporary solution to the water drainage problem rather then decide right away to sell. Al Nyhagen suggested the County give the landowners an easement so they can drain their land. Motion by Menter to recommend to the Finance Committee that an appraiser examine the issue of whether the sale of the 100 feet of our property will diminish the value of the remainder, and, Finance should see if the people's water problems can be solved short of our selling them the land. Seconded by Luckey. Motion carried. YMCA Ellen Denzer reviewed the portion of the Boody property which the YMCA is interested in purchasing. She and Planner Dave Fodroczi reviewed the property in conjunction with the master plan for the property which was prepared by Gair and Assoc. in 1987. The master plan was never fully adopted, however, it does offer guidelines on the use of the land. The YMCA purchase would be appropriate as it is an institutional use, similar to those recommended in the Gair plan, and very compatible with the Government Center. Denzer and Fodroczi also looked at the future use of all the land and the need for an internal roadway system. The natural boundaries created by the wooded ravine and storm water pond suggest the County keep the Eastern 2/3 and sell the Western 1/3. Also, to have the site as a 100 year site able to handle extensive future growth it would be prudent to retain a large parcel, especially since the Government Center is designed to expand horizontally and not vertically. Denzer and Fodroczi met with the City of Hudson Planner Denny Darnold to discuss roadways to maintain interior access. Denzer diagramed these on a map. Easements for roadway alignment should be determined as part of any sale of property and worked out as part of the final sales contract. Overall the sale to the YMCA fits in well with previous planning and should not jeopardize future land needs. Jay Griggs and Tom Holland were at the meeting to give their presentation to the Committee on the purchase of the Boody property as a site for a YMCA. Griggs and Holland feel that by building the YMCA at this location, the value of the remaining property would increase. The YMCA prefers this property, but has two other sites in mind. YMCA wants to start building in the summer so they need an answer from the Finance'Committee in March. They are asking for the Planning and Development Committee's support be given to the Finance Committee. A motion was made by Oemichen and seconded by Luckey to recommend to Finance that an appraiser look at the full wester 1/3 of our property to see if this sale to the Y should add to or diminish the value of the remainder of the land. Krizek will obtain that information. Motion by Menter, seconded by Luckey to inform the Finance Committee that the sale of 10.8 acres to the YMCA would be consistent with the long range plans for the Boody property. Motion carried, four in favor. Oemichen abstained because of his membership on the Camp St. Croix YMCA Board. PARK DEDICATION FEES It was decided that this will be discussed on Monday March 1, 1993 at the Troy Town Hall at the rezoning hearing. BILLS AND INVOICES Oemichen made a motion to approve bills as mailed to the Committee. Seconded by Boche. Motion carried. Do to the late hour, the topic of Existing Private Sewage System Evaluation DILHR 83.055 is postponed until the March meeting. This was to be discussed with the Zoning business. Also under the Planning and Real Property business, the Real Property Report and the Economic Development Subcommittee topics will be discussed at a later date. CLOSED SESSION PER WI STATUE 19.85(1)(c), EVALUATION OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE (ZONING ADMINISTRATOR) Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter to go into closed session. Roll call vote: Luckey, yes; Boche, yes; Oemichen, yes; Menter, yes; Dorsey, yes. Also present in the closed session was Administrative Coordinator John Krizek. A motion was made by Boche, seconded by Oemichen to come out of closed session. Boche and Menter had to leave. The remaining committee went to the Zoning Administrator's Office to review his performance appraisal with him. A motion was made by Oemichen, seconded by Luckey and passed adjourn at 6:40 P.M. Respectfully submitted: Linda Luckey, Secretary cj Connie Juen, cording Secretary