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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning & Development Committee 03-23-1993MINUTES PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MARCH 23, 1993 ST. CROIX COUNTY COURTHOUSE, COUNTY BOARD ROOM, HUDSON, WI PRESENT: Chairperson Tom Dorsey; Supervisors George Menter, Linda Luckey, Robert Boche and Bill Oemichen present for the afternoon session. Staff present included Joe Grant, Ellen Denzer, Mary Jenkins, Brian Halling, Tom Nelson, Dave Fodroczi, Kay Zilz and Rosemary Olson. Guests in attendance were Cyril Cernohous, Larry Murphy, Al Nyhagen, Doug Zahler, Mike Mohror, Supervisor Judy Hayducsko and Bill Weber. Chairperson Dorsey called the meeting to order at 9:02 a.m. Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to adopt the agenda as , mailed to the Committee. Motion carried. Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to approve the previous month's minutes. Motion carried. The next meeting was scheduled for April 27th. PARK BUSINESS Bills & Invoices Grant distributed a copy of the February bills, some of which were signed by Chairperson Dorsey previously with additional bills to be signed today, totalling $9,807.09. Motion by Luckey, seconded by Boche to approve the bills as presented to the Committee. Motion carried. Park Manager's Report Grant reported that he heard the Fair Committee is requesting a new bridge at the fairgrounds and Grant would like the snowmobilers to have access to this bridge. Grant noted that if there is enough money in the budget, we could help the Fair Committee and be able to use it. Grant and Dorsey will attend the Fair Committee meeting to get more information on this issue. Grant reported that he has started getting ready to advertise in the County newspapers for seasonal help. He will be advertising for the next two weeks and interviewing on the 26th of April. Boche suggested Grant go to PIC for youth help or get youths doing community service work. Woodville Trail Grant distributed a copy of a letter he received from a Baldwin resident listing what improvements needed to be done on the Woodville trail. Attached to the letter were news articles mentioning the benefits the Buffalo River trail and trails in the St. Croix Falls area are to those communities. Grant did talk to the resident who wrote the letter and told him about the Friends of the Trail Group where he could get further information and invited him to attend the Planning & Development Committee meeting so the Committee could explain its position on the Woodville trail to him. Grant said that the main repair the letter referred to was the big dips on the trail. Discussion on possible ways to reduce the dips in the low areas. Grant will look into the cost of fixing the dips and report back to the Committee next month. 1 Snowmobile Report Grant gave the Committee a financial report on expenses for the snowmobile trails. Finances for the maintenance project were $32,620, which is approximately $200 per mile. The groomer's expenses were $14,836 and $8,518 for other miscellaneous expenses, leaving a balance of $9,266. The remaining money would be used for custom work done by staff, to pay liability insurance, for posts and signs, club maintenance tasks, and to use some of the money for work on the Woodville Trail. Grant noted that Roger Timm has agreed to accept the grooming contract for next year. He will lease another groomer for one year on a trial basis because he feels the County needs to have two. Grant reported that there was a pickup truck hung -up on the trail by Boardman in February. The Deputy Sheriff was called and there was not a citation issued because of poor signage on the trail. According to the ordinance of 1979, it is not legal to have anything but a snowmobile on the trail. The ordinance was amended to provide for a citation of up to $500.00. Grant asked the Sheriff to keep him advised as to what happens in the pickup truck case in Boardman. Grant will bring any updated information to the Committee. St. Croix River Access (Planning Business) Denzer reviewed what had happened at last month's meeting regarding the DNR purchasing land for a river access. Grant and Denzer met with Marty Engle from the DNR who informed them that the DNR will invest between $100,000 and $200,000 to purchase and equip an access if the County will handle the minor maintenance duties. It would only cost the County approximately $1,500 a year without an attendant at the site and between $3,000 and $5,000 a year with an attendant. This would include free access or a small fee, parking lot, boat ramp with a handicap pier and handicap parking. Johnson-Dingel funds are available for this type of a project. The DNR is asking the County if they want them to look for a site and if the County is interested in having a river access. Motion by Boche, seconded by Luckey to draft a resolution for the next County Board meeting to see what interest there is. The Committee will approve the resolution at the rezonement hearing in Stanton before going to the County Board. Motion carried. Any Other Business Grant discussed how anxious he is to get the guard rail project finished. There has been a lot of confusion involved in the project with the estimates that were discussed at the last Committee meeting. Grant stated that he does not want any bad feelings between the Park Department and the Highway Department and wishes to maintain a good working relationship with them. Grant further noted that Administrative Coordinator John Krizek discussed this issue at the Department Head meeting and feels that half of the guard rail is all that is needed. Chairperson Dorsey requested that the minutes show that the Committee agrees that the project should go ahead as planned because it was approved by the County Board and the Finance Committee. 011 MINOR SUBDIVISIONS As presented by Mary Jenkins: Thomas & Janet Heffron NE 1/4 of the NE 1/4, Section 1, T30N-R18W, 2 Lots - 4.356 acres, Original - 102 acres STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional down. Town of Richmond approval subject to in the legend move pipe symbol COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Menter, seconded by Luckey to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. Philip La Venture NW 1/4 of the NE 1/4 & the NE 1/4 of the NW 1/4, Section 14, T30N-Rl8W, Town of Richmond 1 Lot - 4.526 Acres, Original - 80 acres STAFF RECOIVMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to bearing on the south line NW -NE should be 890 48'31 "W (it actually should be a straight line since the north line of the section is shown as a straight line); the bearing on the west line of lot 1 should be N 0° 32'55"W; since the north 1/4 corner is being used, it should be monumented. COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Menter, seconded by Luckey to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. Glen Johnson SE 1/4 of the SE 1/4, Section 36, T30N-R20W, & the NE 1/4 of the NE 1/4, Section 1, T29N-R19W, Town of St. Joseph 3 Lot - 34.1 acres, Original - same STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Resubmittal; lots should be numbered 4, 5, & 6; need distances on govt. lines of lot 3; need distances on west line of lot 3; need distances on north line of lots 1 & 2; show 75' setback lines from normal high water mark (per 18.16 I); each sheet shall bear the name of the owner & land surveyor (per 18.13(c)(12)); would be nice to see a note on face of map referring to easement detail; Need Surveyor's seal & signature; in the description the degree marks aren't in the correct place; in the description you reference to CSM V2 P523, but on face of map it is P555; forgot the distance in the last course of the description; if NSP owns the S83' of Lot 1 as show on the map then it should not be included in map boundary; add general notice statement. COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Luckey, seconded by Boche to conditionally approve per staff recommendations and to add the following conditions: change the "if' in the second to the last condition to the word "since" NSP owns; surveyor to pay the resubmittal fee; Zoning Department is to receive a written statement from NSP giving permission to cross NSP land with an access easement. Motion carried. Orville Schettle NW 1/4 of the NE 1/4, Section 8, T29N-R19W, Town of St. Joseph 2 Lots - 10.64 acres, Original - same STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to soil test; add general notice statement COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Luckey, seconded by Menter to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. 3 River Hill Family Trust SE 1/4 of the NE 1/4, Section 17, T31N-R19W, Town of Somerset 4 Lots - 20 acres, Original - same STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Reuubmittal; soil test; add graphic scale; the subdivision should be referenced to a boundary line of the quarter section in which the subdivision is located per 236.20(13)(b); add dimensions on south line of lot 5 & lot 6; if the easement to be dedicated is owned by someone other than River Hill Family Trust the owners should be included in owner's certificate; since the last line of the CSM is not perpendicular to the tangents of curve 1-2 & 11-10, they cannot have the same & chord bearings. COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Boche, seconded by Luckey to conditionally approve per staff recommendations and add the following conditions: the easement will be dedicated; the resubmittal fee has to be paid by applicant. Motion carried. Nancy Vanasse NE 1/4 of the NW 1/4, Section 36, T31N-Rl9W, Town of Somerset 2 Lots - 37.5 acres, Original - same STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to add highway setback line; show distance from NW corner, section 36 to NW corner, lot 2; identify person responsible for drafting map; add general notice statement. COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to conditionally approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried. Cyril Cernohous NE 1/4 of the NE 1/4, Section 8, T28N-Rl9W, Town of Troy 1 Lot - 3.16 acres, Original - 67 acres STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Resubmittal; soil test; show existing driveway; purpose & ownership & control of outlot should be indicated per 18.11(B)(2)(6); show that adjoining land east of lot 3 is unplatted; if outlot is platted, a lot is created south of lot 3; add general notice statement. COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Menter, seconded by Boche to conditionally approve per staff recommendations with the following changes: change outlot to easement; soil test has been received; resubmittal is not necessary. Motion carried. MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS As presented by Mary Jenkins: Arbor Hills, Town of St. Joseph: Al Nyhagen, Surveyor, requesting preliminary plat approval. Nyhagen stated that a special exception had been granted earlier for the road being too close to water. He said that the road has been dedicated to the Town. Motion by Luckey, seconded by Menter to approve the preliminary plat. Motion carried. Bass Lake South, Town of St. Joseph: Al Nyhagen, Surveyor, was told by the Town to bring the preliminary to the County for review. Nyhagen noted that Bob Heise from Land Conservation recommended the dike be taken out. He will be bringing this before the Committee next month for preliminary approval. El Parkview Estates Staff feels this should go back to the preliminary stages because of concerns with the net project area. It was discussed that if Lot 134 were split in two and the halves added to the adjoining lots, then perhaps NPA could be met. An earthen dam may be needed for water control. ZONING BUSINESS Bills, Invoices & Revenue Report Nelson distributed copies of the February bills totalling $3,128.11 and the revenue report. Discussion on a bill from the Highway Department and the added charges for materials. County Surveying Technician Brian Halling talked to the person in their office who makes out the bills and she stated that this is standardized throughout the state for office materials used. Motion by Luckey, seconded by Menter to approve the bills as presented to the Committee. Motion carried. Boche voted "No". Chairperson Dorsey requested that the minutes show that the Committee reviewed and approved the revenue report. 11:30 a.m. Ordinance Update Professional Services Jenkins introduced Bill Weber who works for BRW, providing professional services in community planning and design. Weber distributed a copy of a letter he sent to Tom Nelson about hiring out the County Comprehensive Plan and ordinance revisions. Weber stated that he specializes in comprehensive planning, land use planning and land use regulation. He then gave a brief listing of the Counties and businesses he has worked with in the past. Hudson Commercial & Industrial Amendment Mike Mohror from the Town of Hudson requested the Planning & Development Committee send a resolution to the County Board recommending an amendment to the Hudson ordinance for a fiber optic regeneration plant to be allowed in commercial/industrial. zoning. Mohror stated that the Town has held a public hearing and approved the ordinance amendment. Motion by Boche, seconded by Luckey to take a resolution to the County Board recommending the amendment as was requested. Motion carried. Committee adjourned for lunch at 11:58 a.m. Reconvened from lunch at 1:20 p.m. Supervisor Oemichen was excused absent from the morning session and was present at the afternoon session. Rezonements Nelson reminded the Committee of the rezonement in the Town of Hammond Thursday night to be viewed at 7:30 p.m. and the hearing at 8:00 p.m. for a tire shop and the hearing at the Stanton town hall on April 1st. 5 May 10, 1993, Town of Baldwin, Commercial to Ag Res - view 7:30 p.m., hearing 8:00 p.m. April 28, 1993, Town of Eau Galle, Ag Res to Commercial - view 7:30 p.m., hearing 8:00 p.m. Nelson reviewed information previously mailed to the Committee on Private Sewage System Replacement or Rehabilitation Grant Program. He explained that this no longer is a DNR program but a DILHR program. The Counties' responsibilities were outlined through a typical application example. Systems that are being funded are those that fail by discharging sewage to surface water, ground waste, drain tiles, bedrock or zones of saturated soils. Also funded are those which fail by discharging sewage to the surface of the ground. The 1992-93 funding for St. Croix was $39,959. Since the County entered the program in 1983, 556 systems have received grants for a total of $1,076,395. Oemichen commented on a prior violation for a Dennis Dombrook. Oemichen has received several complaints on the same issues from last year. Nelson noted that he has received several complaints also and when out viewing the property, there doesn't seem to be any violation. Ordinance Update Industrial & Commercial Nelson stated that he met with Dave Fodroczi last week on the ordinance update and the concerns in "piece-mealing" the ordinances. He further stated that some additional amendments are needed to the industrial/commercial districts. Nelson asked the Committee what direction should staff be going on this. Oemichen's comments were that a two year board term is not enough time to do a comprehensive change and that this is the reason for the piece -meal amendments. Nelson stated that the current ordinance is difficult to administer because the total picture is not looked at when trying to amend the ordinance. Fodroczi commented on Door County who is working on a performance ordinance and working with a consultant and then on their own with some legal counsel. They have now completed a second draft and are going out to the local governments to get their input. This is already a five year project and they feel they have at least two more years to go on the comprehensive revision. The Committee agreed that staff go ahead with a piece -meal by putting together a survey for the Committee, list the current industrial uses and what staff thinks should be added and what should be deleted and do the same for commercial so the Committee would have some type of an option to look at. Staff will have a preliminary copy of the survey to the Committee by April 20th, after the County Board meeting. Existing Private Sewage System Evaluation DILHR 83.055 Nelson distributed copies of correspondence from the state regarding questions regarding how to apply code provisions regulating existing private sewage systems, systems evaluations, and the issuance of reconnection sanitary permits. This information will be sent to the Towns to let them know that they need to contact the Zoning Office before issuing a building permit. N. PLANNING BUSINESS Park Dedication Fees Denzer reviewed the letter sent to the local municipalities regarding the park dedication fees and the district breakdowns. She has not received much feedback, because the letter went out too late for the monthly Town meetings. She has received responses from the Town of Rush River and Kinnickinnic who spoke favorably of this proposal. Denzer will report to the Committee any other responses she receives. Chairperson Dorsey stated that the Towns of Forest, Cylon, and Emerald are against the proposal. Apple River/Huntington Property Denzer reported that the meeting agenda, listing of activities and a cover letter has been sent out to adjoining land owners for the meeting on March 29th at 7:30 p.m., at the Town Hall. Others attending will be the Sportsmens Alliance, Joe Grant and the DNR. She has not received any feedback from anyone. Hudson - New Richmond Bike Trail Denzer received a copy of a letter sent to Rich Peterson from Mark Gherty to be brought before the County Board proposing a bike trail from Hudson to New Richmond. Gherty wants to show that the County would have minimal expense and involvement in such a project. Peterson asked Denzer to write a response to Gherty on behalf of the County Board. Denzer distributed a copy of the draft letter she has prepared to send to Gherty, as requested by Peterson. She noted that this was before the Committee previously and when she contacted the DOT and the DNR, neither had any interest in the bike trail. Denzer pointed out that there are alternatives to the bike trail and distributed copies of what improvements could be made to existing bicycle trails and routes. Discussion on liability of the on -road bike lanes. Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Luckey to authorize Chairperson Dorsey to sign the letter in response to Gherty's request to Rich Peterson after Denzer makes agreed upon changes in the letter. Motion carried. Menter voted "No". Bills, Invoices & Revenue Report Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter to approve the bills as mailed to the Committee. Motion carried. Chairperson Dorsey requested that the minutes show that the Committee reviewed and approved the revenue report. Real Property Lister Report Fodroczi distributed and reviewed a copy of the 1991 and 1992 assessment changes and comparisons which the Towns and Towns Association had requested to see the activity over the past two year. He explained concerns with certain assessors and turnaround times at the busy times of the year, especially this year with the move to the new government center. This comparison will be sent to the communities and assessors with information about the move to the new government center. Fodroczi discussed the meeting between the City of Hudson and County staff regarding the electronic exchange of files and 7 said that they have agreed upon some revisions to the program. He noted that action will be needed on this by the Planning & Development Committee and the Finance Committee. Information will be sent to the Committee prior to the next Committee meeting for review. Zilz reported that a new program is being developed which will allow her to have many capabilities, but they will have to make changes so the system will be able to accept any cross referencing the program will have. She noted that there is very little time to do this especially with more revaluations coming in every year and the move to the government center this year. County Surveyor/Dunn County GPS Request Fodroczi distributed and reviewed copies of an exchange of correspondence between the Dunn County Surveyor, the St. Croix County Highway Department, the Planning Department and the St. Croix County Surveyor. Fodroczi explained that Dunn County has developed a network of 100 GPS stations throughout their County. He further explained that in order to complete this process they have to rely on ties from surrounding Counties of which there are four borderline ties in St. Croix County. They are requesting that we provide the four monuments in our County. The evaluating is done and now what needs to be done is excavate the sites, put the monuments in with an estimated cost from the Highway Department of between $750-$800. Fodroczi requested authorization to have the Highway Department do this project within the estimated price. Motion by Menter, seconded by Oemichen to authorize the request to have the Highway Department do the project within the estimated price of $750-$800. Motion carried. Recommendation on Request to Purchase Portions of Boody Property Fodroczi distributed copies of a letter John Krizek received from the Gery Campbell Family, neighbors of the new government center, requesting to purchase land for a buffer zone on their backyard adjacent to the Y property. Fodroczi showed the Committee the lot that is requesting the land purchase. Fodroczi did talk to Mrs. Campbell and explained the pros and cons in this issue. Fodroczi suggested that this issue be postponed until next month so staff has more time to talk to these land -owners to give them more information. Any Other Business Fodroczi distributed copies of a letter John Krizek received from the Hudson Area Chamber of Commerce complementing the Planning Department staff on the new County Recreation Map. Fodroczi distributed copies of an agenda for the American Planning Associations (APA) National Conference in Chicago, May 1 st - 5th. He noted that this was approved with the 1993 budget and will be the only Planning conference and training event he will be attending this year. He noted that the rooms are quite expensive so he would look for someone to room with and car pool to the conference. Fodroczi is requesting authorization to attend the APA National Conference in May, in Chicago. Motion by Luckey, seconded by Oemichen to approve Fodroczi attending the APA National Conference in May 2nd - 5th, in Chicago. The Committee requested a report on the conference after his attendance. Motion carried. 0 Minutes Preparation Fodroczi commented on the Administration Committee's policy of having the Committee minutes to the Clerks Office two weeks after the Committee meeting, to be sent to the full County Board for review before the monthly meeting. Discussion. Oemichen will bring this up to the Administration Committee at their next months meeting. Motion by Menter, seconded by Luckey to adjourn the meeting at 4:29 p.m. Motion carried. Respectfully submitted: ��4 Linda Luckey, Secretary ro Ro emary Olson, Recording Secretary Pi