HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning & Development Committee 04-27-1993MINUTES
PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
APRIL 27, 1993
ST. CROIX COUNTY COURTHOUSE, COUNTY BOARD ROOM, HUDSON, WI
PRESENT: Chairperson Tom Dorsey; Supervisors George Menter, Linda Luckey,
Bob Boche and Bill Oemichen. Staff present included Joe Grant,
Dave Fodroczi, Tom Nelson, Brian Halling, Mary Jenkins, Ellen
Denzer, Kay Zilz and Rosemary Olson. Guests in attendance were
JoAnn Persico, Norm Rehder, Marty Engel, Mike Wallace, Bernard
Dwyer, Michael Mohror, Cyril Cernohous, Larry Murphy, Larry
Anderson, Muriel Olsen, Fred Reiter, Steve Cudd, Jim Weber, George
Lindeberg, Andre Rivard of the Tribune Press Reporter, Harvey
Johnson, Francis Ogden, Al Nyhagen, Lori Passe, Stacey Lind and
Dennis Anderson. Also present was Supervisor Art Jacobson.
Chairperson Dorsey called the meeting to order at 9:01 a.m. Motion by
Oemichen, seconded by Menter to adopt the agenda as presented to the
Committee. Motion carried. Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter to approve
the March 23rd minutes with the following addition to page six, paragraph
five: "Oemichen asked Mr. Dombrook to provide a letter of alleged
violations". Motion carried. Motion by Menter, seconded by Oemichen to
approve the April 20th minutes. Motion carried.
The date for the May meeting was set for the 25th, to be held either at the
Council on Aging or Highway Department in Hammond due to the move to the new
Government Center. The June meeting will be the 29th at Glen Hills Park.
Oemichen requested an excused absence from the May meeting.
PARR BUSINESS
Chairperson Dorsey noted that he and Park Director Grant had inspected the
dams in the watershed yesterday. He said that everything looks good and will
need very little maintenance this year. Grant further noted that safety
concerns many years ago caused the dams to be worked on regularly, which makes
the upkeep easier.
Bills & Invoices
Grant distributed and reviewed a list of bills previously signed by Chair
Dorsey, plus additional bills to be signed today totaling $13,817.89. Motion
by Oemichen, seconded by Boche to approve the bills as presented to the
Committee. Motion carried.
Park Manager's Report
Grant reported that the guardrail is finished and looks very nice. He further
noted there were six men working on the guardrail. It took them eleven hours
to finish the project. Grant noted that Supervisor Talley Roquette was along
on the dam inspection.
Grant reported that he attended a recreational trails conference in Pewaukee,
WI. The sessions consisted of trail maintenance, design and resources for
development. He noted a discussion on the economic impact the trails have on
communities and referred to a study done in three areas around the country and
comparisons done in the state of Wisconsin. Grant explained he had gotten
estimates on culverts for the Woodville Trail to repair the low spots in the
trail. He stated that by doing small improvements over a period of time,
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eventually the trail will be complete and use little County money. Grant
reported that the Boot Camp crew has been cutting brush for the past two
weeks, 4 days a week. He noted that there is a lot of traffic on the trail
and suggested posting the trail and enforcing the ordinance as to what type of
vehicles are allowed on the trail. Grant further indicated that the money for
the signs could come from the snowmobile fund. Chairperson Dorsey requested
that Grant look into posting the entrance to the trail, but first put a news
release in local papers saying that motorized vehicles, other than
snowmobiles, are not allowed on the Woodville Trail.
Grant reported that two residents from Huntington, Allen Powers and Don
Potter, came to see him requesting permission to cut wood on the County's
Apple River property. Discussion. The Committee agreed that this could not
be allowed because of liability to the County or until a clearly defined
policy is in place.
Grant reported that he and Chairperson Dorsey attended the Fair Board meeting
regarding the proposed bridge at the fairgrounds. At that meeting there was
discussion on the County cost sharing in the project for $1,000 if the project
were postponed for one year. The Fair Board decided they did not want to wait
for a year and will go ahead with the project as planned.
Grant noted that only one seasonal person will be hired for 1993.
Grant reported that he received a call from Ron Baillargeon, Somerset, WI
asking if the County would be interested in purchasing land north of the
Somerset Village limits to be used for a County park. Discussion. Grant
stated that citizens see the need for more parks in the County. The Committee
agreed that there is not enough money to purchase additional land for another
park in the County.
Grant inquired on the hold up for the Outdoor Recreation Plan. He stated that
staff has been putting together information since December of 1990, yet
nothing has been finished to this point. Discussion.
10:00 A.M. HEARINGS
As presented by Tom Nelson:
10:00 a.m., Steve Cudd/Salishan Partnership
Chairperson Dorsey called the hearing to order. Nelson read the notice as
published in the local papers requesting a special exception for land division
in the riverway district. Jim Weber, Weber Land Surveying, 471 N. Main St.,
River Falls, WI reviewed the plat. Steve Cudd, 1120 Pineridge Dr., River
Falls, WI commented on where the lift to the river and boat slips would be
located. Nelson stated that this does meet the setback requirements and
recommended approval. Fred Reiter, 553 Cty. Rd M, River Falls, WI is an
adjoining neighbor and asked where the boat slips would be located.
Discussion on having individual docks or all together off of one dock. Motion
by Oemichen, seconded by Luckey for approval for the special exception with
the restriction that the boat slips be located as far south as reasonably
possible from the Rose home and that all slips be off one main dock. Motion
carried. Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Boche to adjourn the hearing.
Motion carried.
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10:30 a.m. Hearing, Muriel Olson
As presented by Mary Jenkins:
Jenkins read the notice as it was published in the newspapers requesting a
special exception permit in the riverway district to create a minor
subdivision. Jim Weber, Weber Land Surveying, 471 N. Main St., River Falls,
WI explained the division of an existing CSM into three lots and that all lots
meet the net project buildable area. Dennis Anderson, 160 Maple Hill Rd.,
owns the property across the road from lot 2. Anderson is concerned that if
the plat is approved, the entry to the lot would come off from Anderson Scout
Camp Road. He stated there are dangerous conditions such as heavy traffic on
weekends which could cause a hazard. He suggested that the driveways come out
on Twin Springs Road. Discussion on joint access off of Anderson Scout Camp
Road for lots 3 and 4. Stacey Lind, 1541 Scout Camp Road, whose property is
across from lot 4, expressed the same concerns as Mr. Anderson. Lori Passe,
1535 Anderson Scout Camp Road, concurs with Mr. Lind and Mr. Anderson on their
concerns. Jenkins stated that the Town has approved the map but does not have
a recommendation on the driveway issue. Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter
to close the hearing. Motion carried. Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Boche
to postpone this decision until a recommendation is received from the Town on
the special exception. Motion carried. Staff will send a letter to the Town
Board explaining what the issues are on the driveway placement. Any other
interested parties should also contact the Town Board.
MINOR SUBDIVISIONS
As presented by Mary Jenkins:
Steve Halleen
NW 1/4 of the SW 1/4, Section 18, T31N-R16W, Town of Cylon
1 Lot - 10 acres, Original - 94+ acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to file a tie sheet for W
1/4 corner if you haven't already done so; show well and septic; add general
notice statement.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter to conditionally
approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
Daryl & Jo Ann Berends
SW 1/4 of the SW 1/4, Section 2, T29N-R17W, Town of Hammond
2 Lots - 33.416 Acres, Original - same
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to the "688.79" dimension
on the east side of lot 1 is mathematically incorrect; on the north line of
lot 1, at the jog in the NE corner, 231.00' and 33.00' do not total 264.01;
add highway setback lines (100' from R/W); show building setback line 75' from
normal high water mark (per 18.16(I)); Bushnell Lake should be labeled and
underlined; show status of adjoining lands to west, south, east (i.e.,
unplatted lands); 100th Street as labeled on map should be 192nd Street; show
R/W width of 110th Avenue; identify who drafted the map; add general notice
statement (per Zoning Office).
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter to conditional
approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
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Eugene & Mariell Emerson
NW 1/4 of the NW 1/4, Section 34, & the SW 1/4 of the NW 1/4, Section 33, &
the SE 1/4 of the NE 1/4, Section 33, T28N-R18W, Town of Kinnickinnic
3 Lots - 21.84 acres, Original - same
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to date on sheet 1 should
be 3-15; in general notice statement, the word developing is misspelled; would
be less confusing if lots were numbered 3 & 4.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to conditionally
approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
Carl Westerdahl
NE 1/4 of the NW 1/4, Section 17, T28N-R18W, Town of Kinnickinnic
2 Lots - 6.29 acres, Original - same
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to must be referenced to
a boundary line of a 1/4 section in which the subdivision is located &
monuments at ends shown (236. 20 (3) (b) ; 205.04 + 270.68 doesn't total 475. 73'
on the easterly R/W line; show highway setback line; need to show both tangent
bearings on map (236.20(2)(k); a metes and bounds description is required per
236.34(i)(d); add general notice statement.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Boche to conditionally
approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
Muriel Olsen
Gov't Lot 3, Section 14, T30N-R20W, Town of Somerset
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to approval of special
exception use; show previously recorded distance on north line lot 2; both
road names should be underscored; in the tangent bearing at 4, the ; should be
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Luckey to postpone until a
decision is made on the special exception. Motion carried.
Eugene Mullikin
NE 1/4 of the NW 1/4, Section 32, T31N-R17W, Town of Stanton
2 Lots - 11.3 acres, original - 90 + acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional:- approval subject to soil test; label what
was found at NW corner section 32; the acreage of lot 2 rounds up to 5.13
acres and the total to 10.25 acres; identity who drafted the map.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Boche, seconded by Oemichen to conditionally
approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
Joe Ulrich
NW 1/4 of the NE 1/4, Section 32, T31N-R17W, Town of Stanton
2 Lots - 13.86 acres, original - same
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to soil test; must be
described by metes & bounds description (236.34 (1) (d) (2) ; easement should be
labeled; S.T.H. "641' should be underscored; Zoning is misspelled in general
notice statement; scaling error noticed during review assumed to have taken
place during photocopying process.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to conditionally
approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
Art Feyereisen
SW 1/4 of the SE 1/4, Section 8, T28N-R19W, Town of Troy
1 Lot - 3.01 Acres, Original - 62.2 acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to Surveyor's review to
be completed
COMMITTEE ACTION: After the Surveyor finished his review there was a motion
by Oemichen, seconded by Boche to conditionally approve with the following
conditions: indicate purpose of Outlot 1; underscore unplatted lands; and,
add general notice statement. Motion carried.
Paul Johnson
SE 1/4 of the SE 1/4, Section 30, T28N-R19W, Town of Troy
1 Lot - 2.01 acres, Original - 37.4+ acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to driveway to be 75'
from NW corner of lot (per Highway Dept.); the arc length in curve 1-2, inch
mark instead of foot mark; clarify whether the 2631.53' dimension of the south
line of the SE 1/4 is the total or to the west line of lot 2; add general
notice statement.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter to conditionally
approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
John Boughton
NE 1/4 of the SW 1/4, Section 7, T29N-R18W, Town of Warren
1 Lot - 5.88 acres, Original - 24.36 acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to add dimension of the
south line of access easement, north end of lot; in bearing reference
statement, add E-W 1/4 line; staff computed acreage (net) is .02 acres less
than shown but is within tolerance; total acreage on sheet 2 should be 6.01
acres; to avoid possible future confusion, it would be nice to see foot marks
on map; names of existing CSMs, private road, access easement, town road,
unplatted lands should all be underscored with a dashed line; identify who
drafted the instrument; add general notice statement (per Zoning Office);
"Hennessey Road" should be "Hennessey Drive"; should be numbered Lot 2 since
there already exists a lot 1 in the same 1/4 1/4 section (per 18.11(B)(2)(o).
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Luckey, seconded by Oemichen to conditionally
approve per staff recommendations with an additional condition that
appropriate language be prepared per 18.11(B)(2)(Q)(i.e., "Any outlot owned by
a homeowners association or commonly owned, and any private road serving two
lots, shall have deed restrictions or covenants enforceable by the County
against all lots within the subdivision for taxes and maintenance of the
road.) Motion carried.
John Boughton
NW 1/4 of the SE 1/4, Section 7, T29N-R18W, Town of Warren
1 Lot - 5.18 Acres, Original - 170+ acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to in bearing reference
statement (under scale block) add E-W 1/4 line; add highway setback line along
west side of lot (100' from R/W); "Hennessey Road" should be "Hennessey
Drive"; the lot excluding R/W doesn't close; I think the distance on the south
line (461.33) Is incorrect; Hennessey Dr., private road, access easement,
CSM's should all be underscored with a dashed line; identify who drafted the
instrument; add foot marks, in the description Hennessey is misspelled and
Road should be Drive; add general notice statement (per Zoning Office).
COMMITTEE ACTION: Same motion as previous CSM for John Boughton.
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Earl Mueller
NE 1/4 of the NW 1/4, Section 24, T29N-R18W, Town of Warren
1 Lot - 2.24 acres, original - 80+ acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to adding Surveyor's
seal, signature & date; forgot thence before the first bearing in the easement
description; revise easement description to include grantor's signature and
Notary Public; add general notice statement.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Luckey to conditionally
approve per staff recommendations. Motion carried.
MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS
As presented by Tom Nelson:
Highland Hills, Al Nyhagen Surveyor, Town of St. Joseph.
The County Surveyor has reviewed the plat. Some lots are only suitable for a
mound system. Discussion on lot numbering. Since the plat was originally
submitted to the State and switched to the County part way through the review
process, it was excused from having the proper lot numbering sequence. Motion
by Luckey, seconded by Boche for final approval. Motion carried.
Deerfield, Al Nyhagen Surveyor, Town of St. Joseph.
The County Surveyor completed the review of this plat. Some sites will need
mound systems. It was agreed that the numbering on these lots will not change
because the project began with the state process and then came to the County.
Motion by Luckey, seconded by Oemichen to conditionally approve. The deeds
for Lots 2 and 3 of the CSM in Volume 7, Page 1989 must be redone to show
ownership to the middle of Walsh Road and Outlot I for Lot 3, and ownership to
the middle of Walsh Road for Lot 2. Motion carried.
Arbor Hills, Al Nyhagen, Surveyor, Town of St. Joseph
The County Assistant Surveyor reviewed this plat and all conditions have been
met. A letter was sent to Nyhagen noting that all conditions have been met.
Motion by Luckey, seconded by Boche for final approval. Motion carried.
Glover Station, Frank Ogden, Surveyor, Town of Troy.
Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter for final approval with the following
conditions established at an earlier hearing: 1. Setbacks be shown; 2.
Driveways across 20% slopes be constructed; and, 3. Dam be constructed.
Motion carried.
Bass Lake South, Al Nyhagen, Surveyor, Town of St. Joseph
A motion was made (Luckey, Oemichen) to give preliminary approval on the
condition that the lots be renumbered per County ordinance, that a culvert be
placed under the road and the road be built up to address flooding issues, and
that the Town be sent a letter stating the need for the private road and cul-
de-sac to become public. Permission was given to construct the road before
final plat approval provided that the appropriate performance guarantees are
submitted. Motion carried.
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Salishan, Town of Troy.
A copy of the covenants is to be sent to the Zoning Office. Committee
discussed concerns on access to lot 10. Land Conservation wants storm water
control measures that will withstand a 100 year storm. Motion by Oemichen,
seconded by Menter to give conditional preliminary plat approval with the
conditions being: Lot 10 must have a 66 ft. driveway easement; Land
Conservation concerns must be addressed; and, road construction can begin
before final plat approval if all fees and performance guarantees are
submitted first. Motion carried.
ZONING BUSINESS
Bills, Invoices & Revenue Report
Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Boche to approve the Zoning bills. Motion
carried. Chairperson Dorsey requested that the minutes show that the revenue
report was reviewed and approved.
Rezonements
Nelson stated that he had one rezonement request. After talking to Chad Clark
last Thursday, it appeared he needed a mortgage survey. Nelson recommended he
talk to his bank and that he would not be setting up a rezonement. Nelson
noted that Mr. Clark did pay the fee and it will be returned to him.
Violations & Citations
Nelson noted that he does not have any paper work for the Committee but there
are a number of violations in progress at this time. Nelson explained that he
is working with Public Health on a situation where people are living in a
trailer house without any proper sanitation system and well. Nelson stated
that the Health ordinance needs to be updated to better address some of the
public health issues.
Chairperson Dorsey noted that he will be absent from the afternoon session and
referred to the 1:30 p.m. Soils Evaluations item on the agenda. He noted that
Supervisor Art Jacobson will be involved in the discussion. Dorsey stated
that he is not in favor of any changes in the ordinance.
Committee adjourned for lunch. Vice Chairman Oemichen took over as chair when
the committee returned from lunch.
Planning & Zoning Training Session
Nelson distributed a copy of a draft for the next training session agenda and
reservation form. The training session will be held May 20th, at the Cashman
Conference Center at WITC, New Richmond. He recommended that this be scheduled
as a Committee meeting because of some of the agenda items.
Personnel Matters
Nelson informed the Committee that Administrative Secretary Connie Juen will
be going to the County District Attorney's Office June 14th, the Monday after
the move to the new government center. Her job will be posted for two weeks;
if no one posts in they will have to advertise. Nelson has talked to
Personnel Director Deb Kathan about training a person in for two weeks if some
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one posts in. He also noted that Connie's replacement will be required to
obtain the Plumber Inspector License 2 during the six month probation period.
Nelson requested 46 hours of 1992 vacation be carried over into 1993. Motion
by Menter, seconded by Boche to approve the carry-over of 46 hours of 1992
vacation to 1993. Motion carried.
Sanitary Survey Apple River
Nelson distributed a copy of a letter he received from Supervisor Bob Stephens
regarding comments Stephens received from Ed Halkowski and requesting a
sanitary survey on the Apple River, from the dam to up past the camp ground.
Nelson suggested that we possibly do a sanitary survey where we would let out
bids. This has been done on Lake Mallalieu and Bass Lake. The Committee
agreed to give Nelson authority to write a letter to Stephens giving him some
history on these issues and to explain the cost of a survey.
Hudson Commercial & Industrial Amendment
Nelson distributed a copy of a letter he received from the Town of Hudson
requesting an amendment to their Commercial Ordinance to add RV hookups.
Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter to recommend to the County Board for
approval. Motion carried.
1:30 p.m. Soils Evaluations
Supervisor Jacobson asked the Committee if it was necessary to do a CSM and
perc test on a 20 acre parcel he purchases, not to be used as a building site,
but for planting corn and oats? Nelson explained how the policy came about.
Vice Chair Oemichen asked for a spelled out proposal of the language Jacobson
would like in the ordinance regarding this type of land purchase.
DILHR Changes to ILHR
Nelson referred to a handout from a year ago and explained that DILHR took it
upon themselves to make some changes in mound systems, which legally they
could not do. He further explained that the DNR sued DILHR who will now amend
ILHR 83. Nelson reviewed the new rules. Luckey distributed a news article
regarding the danger to ground water because of the proposed new rules. The
Committee agreed to send a resolution to local legislators listing concerns on
the issues. Motion by Boche, seconded by Luckey to draw up a resolution to
be sent to the proper authorities on the proposed changes. Motion carried.
Definition of Animal Units
Nelson referred to a discussion with the Committee in January regarding animal
units, which was never resolved. He noted the way it is written now, a person
would have to go to BOA for approval. Some have suggested that this could be
a land use permit or a special exception use permit to have standards in tune
with NR 243. Nelson further recommended a public meeting be scheduled, with a
questionnaire sent out prior to the public meeting to interested parties to
see what issues people are concerned about. This would help define the
issues. The Committee will further discuss this item at the Wednesday night
meeting.
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St. Croix River Access
Denzer distributed copies of a memo to the County Board explaining the DNR's
reason for wanting a river access. She also distributed a copy of the
resolution the Committee received last month with some word changes to be
amended by the Committee and to be put on the County Board agenda for May.
Marty Engel explained the DNR's intent with this project. The DNR needs to
know if the County is interested in this project. Motion by Boche, seconded
by Luckey to adopt the resolution and bring it to County Board for approval.
Motion carried with Menter voting "No".
Supervisor Oemichen left at 2:25 p.m. and Secretary Luckey took over as chair.
Industrial Zoning District
This item was rescheduled for May 17th at 7:00 p.m. at the Courthouse.
PLANNING BUSINESS
Bills, Invoices & Revenue Report
Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to approve the bills as presented to the
Committee. Motion carried. Acting Chair Luckey requested that the minutes
show that the Committee reviewed and approved the revenue report.
Apple River/Huntington Property
Denzer reviewed with the Committee the meeting with adjoining property owners
on the Apple River/ Huntington property. She has received two written
responses and a phone call, two of which did attend the meeting and one who
did not. The general feeling among the neighbors is that an assessor's plat
is necessary but they are not willing to pay for it. Denzer further noted
that 12 to 13 property owners out of 25 are adjacent to the County property.
Staff will look into options of either doing a quit claim deed to adjust the
adjoining properties or doing an assessor's plat, compare the costs and report
back to the Committee.
County -City of Hudson Memorandum of Understanding on Assessment/Tax Files
Fodroczi distributed and reviewed a copy of the Memorandum of Understanding
between the County and the City of Hudson to carry out an electronic transfer
of tax files. Fodroczi stated that after approval from this Committee, this
would have to also be approved by the Finance Committee and then the full
County Board. Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to approve the Memorandum
of Understanding between the County and the City of Hudson. Motion carried.
Legislative Issues
Fodroczi distributed and reviewed a copy of the spring legislative report Kay
Zilz brought back with her from the Real Property Lister's annual area
meeting. He requested that the Committee review and take action on AB 214, SB
85 and AB 74 , to then be sent on to the Administration Committee and the
County Board. Motion by Boche, seconded by Luckey to amend AB 214 and SB 85
to make it permissive instead of mandatory. Motion carried. Motion by Boche,
seconded by Luckey to oppose AB 74 as we prefer the current 10 days notice
requirement. Motion carried.
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Fodroczi handed -out and reviewed the Wisconsin Land Information Association
legislative position summary. A motion was made (Boche, Menter) and passed to
support their proposals.
Economic Development Subcommittee
There is a meeting scheduled for May 12th, 7:00 p.m. at the Cashman Conference
Center in New Richmond. Once the group has an idea what their duties will
consist of, they will come to the County Board with some type of proposal.
Other
Fodroczi reported that he will not be attending the APA annual conference
because it would conflict with the move to the new government center. He
noted that the state chapter will meet in July and he will report to the
Committee when he has more details on that meeting.
Motion by Menter, seconded by Boche to adjourn the meeting at 4:16 p.m.
Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted:
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Linda Luckey, Secretary
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Rosemary,lson, Recording
Secretary
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