HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning & Development Committee 12-28-1993PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
DECEMBER 28, 1993
ST. CROIX COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER, HUDSON, WI
PRESENT: Vice Chairperson Bill Oemichen; Supervisors Bob Boche, George Menter and Linda
Luckey arriving at 9:07 a.m. Staff present included Dave Larson, Tom Nelson, Brian
Halling, Greg Timmerman, Jim Rusch, Dave Fodroczi and Rosemary Olson. Guests in
attendance were County Board Chairperson Rich Peterson, Carl Story, Tim Filipiack, John
Werium, Lon Feia, Verlyn Benoy, Jim Webster, Paul Nelson, Vera Anderson, Cyril
Cernohous, Al Nyhagen, Doug Zahler, Joe Granberg, Nancy Johnson, Larry Murphy and
Dale Johnson.
ABSENT: Chairperson Tom Dorsey, excused.
Motion by Menter, seconded by Boche to adopt the agenda as presented to the Committee. Motion
carried. Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to approve the November minutes. Motion carried. The
next meeting date was scheduled for Tuesday, January 25, 1994 at 9:00 a.m.
PARK BUSINESS
Bills & Invoices
Larson distributed and reviewed a list of bills previously signed by Chairperson Dorsey with additional
bills to be signed at this meeting. Of the total bills, the Snowmobile bills were in the amount of
$1,478.79. These bills are reimbursable through the DNR Snowmobile Aids Program. The Park bills
were in the amount of $3,974.19. Total bills approved by the Committee were $13,657.70 with a motion
by Boche, seconded by Menter. Motion carried.
Park Manager's Report
Larson discussed the work done at Troy Park to repair the flood damage from last summer. He reported
that all time and materials were reimbursed to Glen Hills from FEMA. The only thing that was not
reimbursed was the lost revenue. Vice Chairperson Oemichen requested that Grant bring to the January
Committee meeting an itemized list of work done and moneys received.
Larson reported that late in October the DNR stocked Glen Hills Lake with trout and there has been a lot
of fishing activity.
Larson reported that they had applied for 10 more segments to the County snowmobile trails and were
awarded four, a total of 21 more miles, making a total 184 miles of snowmobile trails in the County. This
will bring in extra revenue of $200 per mile --a total of $4,200 in revenue to the County. He did note that
the trails are closed and will be until there is at least 7 to 8 inches of snow. Larson noted that Roger
Timms has contracted to do the grooming again this year. He has purchased a John Deere tractor
converted for snowmobile trail grooming.
Larson reported that they inspected the Woodville Trail before gun deer hunting season and right after.
There was no vandalism either time they were there, which means the signs are working and have solved
the problem.
ZONING BUSINESS
Bills, Invoices & Revenue Report
There was discussion on a bill approved last month by the Committee and not approved by the Finance
Committee. It was to reimburse Mary Jenkins for the last soils test she took in Madison. Motion by
Boche, seconded by Menter to approve the Zoning bills except for the Jenkins bill for $302.48 based on
the fact that it was paid for in 1989 and the previous decision by the Finance Committee. Motion carried.
Vice Chairperson Oemichen requested that the minutes show that the revenue report was reviewed and
approved.
Violation & Citations
Nelson distributed copies of current violations & citations. Nelson reported on the Pulford case which
went to court last month. He stated the judgment was in the County's favor, that Pulford was ordered to
remove the livable portion of the building from his property and he was fined $33,000. He further noted
that the appeal period extends to the middle of January, 1994. Nelson then discussed the Richard Marsoff
appeal by the state. Nelson will get copies of both of the decisions for the Committee. Oemichen
inquired about two violations in the Town of Troy and Nelson reported that the Intermedin Car Sales is
ag related and Zoning Assistant Jim Thompson has not had time to check on the non-metallic violation,
so Nelson will send the violation.
Rezonings
Nelson reminded the Committee of the rezoning hearing January 6, 1994 in Baldwin. This will include
the Dan Casey rezoning postponed from the Town of Stanton.
Request of Park Moneys Released in the Town of Stanton, Erin Prairie and Richmond
Nelson distributed copies of the requests from the Town of Stanton, Erin Prairie and Richmond. The
Town of Stanton is requesting $500 for their donation to the Star Prairie Lions Club last May for
playground equipment. Nelson stated that he has sent them a copy of the form they must complete before
the money can be released.
The Town of Erin Prairie requested $750 for reimbursement to Mary Michels for maintenance on the Erin
Corners ball field and the Town of Richmond requested $14,000 for the construction of a pool in New
Richmond. The Committee cannot take action until receiving more information from each of the Towns
regarding the expenditures, and the expenditures must be for capital items and not for general operating
expenses.
Personnel Matter
Nelson reported that no one posted in to the Zoning Administrative Secretary's position so the job has
been advertised in all local newspapers. The applications are due back by the 6th of January.
Ordinance Revision Recommendations
The Committee discussed a policy change requested by the Town of Troy. Motion by Luckey, seconded
by Menter to insert the word "Towns" in the general notice statement. Motion carried. Nelson will notify
the surveyors of the change.
Nelson noted that the Town of Stanton is reluctant to rezone the Tom Wells property because they feel
that it is too large a tract. They suggested that a different district be developed with smaller acreage than
the A2, but larger acreage than ag residential --such as 5 or 10 acres in an A3 district. Discussion on
doing a comprehensive revision of the ordinance. The Committee agreed to request time on the Towns'
Association meeting agenda to talk about the current ordinance, the problems the Committee has heard
about at the rezoning hearings, the fact that the Committee feels there is a need to revise the ordinance
and how the Towns can play a part in revising the ordinance. Fodroczi will call and get on the Towns'
Association meeting agenda for January 18, 1994. This will be an official Committee meeting and a
handout will be prepared with a general overview of what is and what is not being considered for change.
This information will be sent to the Towns prior to the meeting on January 18th.
10:00 a.m. Hearings
Nelson read the notices for both hearings. They are for Karl Neumeier, Jr., Catherine Bill, and Josephine
Landgford for a land division in a riverway district, and for Georgeanne Johnson for a lot ratio variance.
Neumeier, Jr., Catherine Bill and Josephine Landgford - Land division in the Riverway District: The
property owners wish to create a one lot minor subdivision. Nelson explained that there is a man-made
pond on the property but there is no requirement for a 75' setback from a man-made body of water.
Nelson has not received any correspondence from the Town of Somerset at this time. Jim Weber, 421
No. Main St., River Falls, WI presented the map to the Committee. Vice Chairperson Oemichen asked
if there was anyone else present who wished to comment on this request. The Committee agreed to go
on to the next hearing, then close the hearing and vote on both of them at the same time.
Georgeanne Johnson - Nelson explained that this is a request to exceed the three to one lot ratio and noted
there needs to be a hardship and no reasonable use of the property. Nelson received correspondence
from the Town of St. Joseph stating that a motion was made to recommend that the lot ratio be
disapproved because no hardship was given. Joe Granberg, 1239 County Road E, New Richmond, WI
stated they have never received a perc test result and pointed out the lowest area on the lot. He further
noted that a house could be put on the east side of the lot because of where the driveway is. Motion by
Boche, seconded by Menter to close the hearings. Motion carried.
Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to deny the Georgeanna Johnson request for a lot ratio variance
because the Town of St. Joseph is not in favor of this request and hardship has not been shown. Motion
carried.
Motion by Luckey, seconded by Boche to approve the land division in the Riverway District for Langford,
Neumier, and Bell. Motion carried.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS
Parkview Estates 6th Addition discussion:
Tim Filipiak introduced himself and explained that there was a meeting with the Town Board regarding
the proposed development being connected to Trout Brook Woods. He presented the Committee with a
copy of the Town minutes to show the decision made by them. Filipiak noted that the Town Board does
agree that two cul-de-sacs should be made for safety reason due to the severity of the hill going down and
the fact that it empties onto Trout Brook Road. Nelson stated he is against a lot of dead end roads in a
development and is concerned with the road not continuing through unless it is commercial or industrial
property. Carl Story commented on the decision by the Town to put in the cul-de-sac due to the steep
hill being a safety hazard. The next comment was from another resident at 414 Brookwood Drive noting
that there will be only 18 lots in the subdivision and that traffic in itself would not be a concern, but
because there are so few accesses going toward Stillwater, it would be more convenient for approximately
128 lots to the east to go down Brookwood Drive. He feels it would be a couple hundred extra cars
going down this hill to Trout Brook Road. He feels that Trout Brook is not a very safe road. Discussion
on lot size. John Werium of 362 Brookwood Drive, one of the first lots going up the steep hill, feels that
it would be better, for safety reasons, to have a cul-de-sac. Verlyn Benoy does not live in the project, but
is a developer and is concerned with these people putting an extra burden on the developer by changing
the plat. He feels that these people should have taken their concerns long ago to the developer instead
of waiting until now. Story stated that they have been working with the developer all along and the
developer feels that if the County will agree, they don't have a problem with changing it. Nyhagen states
that he needs direction from the Committee. The Committee agreed to view the site before making a
decision on the plat. This will be put on the January agenda.
MINOR SUBDIVISIONS
As presented by Brian Halling:
James Schwalen
NE 1/4, SE 1/4, Sec. 28, T29N-R18W, Town of Warren
2 lots - 5.489 Acres, Original - 74.25
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to application be signed by Township
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Menter to conditionally approve with added condition that the 40
ft. joint driveway not be shown on the CSM. Motion failed for lack of a second. Motion by Luckey,
seconded by Boche to conditionally approve and re -draw the CSM to show 13 ft. on each side of the
driveway to conform with the ordinance. Roll call vote: Boche-yes; Luckey -yes; Menter-no; Oemichen-
no. Vice Chairperson suggested that the Committee discuss this with Corporation Counsel before making
a decision.
Clayton Fultz
NE 1/4, NE 1/4, Sec. 1, T28N-R16W, Town of Eau Galle
1 lot - 2.5 Acres, Original - 60 Acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to show highway setback line (100' from
R/W); Show well & septic locations on map; Identify who drafted instrument.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter to conditionally approve per staff
recommendations. Motion carried.
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Richmar Industries, A Wisconsin Partnership
NE 1/4 SW 1/4 Sec. 27, T29N-R19W, Town of Hudson
1 lot - 2.5 Acres, Original - 41 Acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to receipt of soil test
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Boche, seconded by Oemichen to approve with the condition that
the soil test be sent to the Zoning Office. Motion carried.
Annabelle Hanson
NW 1/4, SW 1/4, Sec. 21, T29N-R17W, Town of Hammond
1 lot - 2.47 Acres, Original - 124 Acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Approve
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Menter, seconded by Boche to approve per staff recommendations.
Motion carried. It was noted that this is a farm consolidation.
Annabelle Hanson
NW 1/4, SW 1/4, Sec. 21, T29N-R17W, Town of Hammond
1 lot - 5 Acres - Original - 124 Acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Approve
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Luckey, seconded by Boche to
Motion carried. This is a farm consolidation.
approve per staff recommendation.
Neumeier, Bell and Langford
NW 1/4, NW 1/4 and NE 1/4, NW 1/4 Sec. 7, T30N-R19W, Town of Somerset
1 lot - 5.80 Acres, Original - 180 + Acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to change lot # to Lot 2 since there exists
a Lot 1 in the NE -NW; The west line of lot should be 597.35' instead of 576.35; The chord bearing in
curve 3-4 should be S44 28'53.5"E.; Representation is misspelled in surveyor's cert.; Special exception
approval.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Menter, seconded by Boche to conditionally approve per staff
recommendations and add soil test to conditions. Motion carried.
Erwin Heinecke
SW 1/4, SW 1/4, Sec. 22, T31N-R18W, Town of Star Prairie
1 lot - 5.247 Acres - Original - 34.068 Acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to in the general notice statement, wetlands
is misspelled; In the bearing reference statement, should be west line of the SW 1/4 of Section 22; Show
well and septic.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Boche, seconded by Menter to conditionally approve per staff
recommendations. Motion carried.
Evelyn Sarinski
NW 1/4, NW 1/4 and SW 1/4, NW 1/4, Sec. 26, T30N-R17W, Town of Erin Prairie
1 lot - 30 Acres - Original - 120 Acres
Farm Consolidation
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Approve
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Boche, seconded by Luckey to approve per staff recommendations.
Motion carried.
Bruce & Judith Douglas
SE 1/4, NW 1/4 and NE 1/4, NW 1/4, Sec. 8, T28N-R19W, Town of Troy
2 lots - 20.16 Acres - Original - 20.16 Acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to distance on the west line of the access
easement should be 74.65'; Show setback from access easement; Draw dashed lines at chords; Add
owner's name to sheet 2; Label town road east of access easement; The tangent bearing in curve 5-6 and
7-8 should be N89°00'50"E.; Add Town of Troy to Standard Note.(per Township); Label access easement
- Future Town Road(per Township).
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Menter to conditionally approve per staff
recommendations. Motion carried.
Myrtle Hanson
NE 1/4, SW 1/4 and NW 1/4, SE 1/4 and SE 1/4, NW 1/4 and SW 1/4, NE 1/4, Sec. 9, T28N-R19W,
Town of Troy
1 lot - 30.50 Acres - Original - 150 + Acres
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS: Conditional approval subject to add NW -SW and SW -NW to location;
In the second course of the description, should be 994.96'.
COMMITTEE ACTION: Motion by Oemichen, seconded by Boche to conditionally approve per staff
recommendations. Motion carried.
Halling presented a Minor Subdivision concept from Surveyor Al Nyhagen, which will be followed with
a Major. Halling reviewed the map with the Committee pointing out where the existing CSM is on a map.
Halling noted that he and Nyhagen have different view points on whether the outlot severs the remainder
of Skoglund's land. Nyhagen stated he has talked to Jeanne Storm from the state and they do not believe
it severs the lot. Halling also talked to Jeanne Storm and she stated that the County ordinance may be
more restrictive. Corporation Counsel was asked to comment on this issue. It was decided that if the
outlot is changed to an easement, a new lot is not created.
The Committee then returned to the first CSM for James Schwalen. Vice Chairperson Oemichen noted
that the last motion ended in a tie and asked Corporation Counsel to advise the Committee on the
driveway issue. Timmerman explained that it is necessary to show the 66 feet because if there is future
development there has to be adequate right of way for roads and streets. Motion by Luckey, seconded
by Boche to conditionally approve and add the condition that an additional 13 feet be shown on both sides
of the driveway to get to the 66 foot road easement. Motion carried with Menter voting against.
ZONING BUSINESS CONTINUED
Marvin Utech Survey
Nancy Johnson from Century 21 reviewed a map of the property. She explained that when the property
was divided and sold in 1992 a statement was put on the CSM that the shed on the property line had to
be removed. Nelson feels that the shed is grandfathered-in as it was on the original lot line. The new
lot line did not create the problem. Vice Chairperson Oemichen requested that the minutes show that the
Committee does not require the structure to be removed. Nelson asked that the record note a reference
to 17.70(4) under Non -conforming Uses. Nelson read that section. Vice Chairperson Oemichen requested
that the record also show that the County will not enforce the language on the CSM requiring the building
to be removed, however, the County does refer to the language stating it cannot be substantially improved.
Committee recessed for lunch at 12:10 p.m. and reconvened at 1:16 p.m.
PLANNING BUSINESS
Bills, Invoices & Revenue Report
Motion by Boche, seconded by Luckey to approve the Planning bills. Motion carried.
Vice Chairperson Oemichen requested that the minutes show that the revenue report was reviewed and
approved.
County Surveyor Work Program
Fodroczi referred to a handout previously mailed to the Committee with the re -worked 1994 work program
hours for the County Surveyor.
Rusch reviewed what was dropped from the original work program discussed at the November meeting.
Item D., the 300 hour inventory, was dropped, and PTO, holidays, etc was changed to 576 hours.
Discussion on what Mary Jenkins would be doing on the CSMs. Rusch feels it is more proficient if one
person goes all the way through the CSM process and feels Jenkins is capable of doing that but suggested
that the Surveyor would be available if she had any problems. The Committee agreed that the 780 hours
for Brian's time for zoning be lowered to 350 hours and 420 more hours be allocated between
maintenance and remonumentation. Rusch then explained how he arrived at the hours for G.P.S. and
remonumentation. Motion by Luckey, seconded by Menter to approve the 1994 County Surveyor work
program with the following changes: Hours devoted to the Zoning Office by Brian Halling would be
decreased from 780 hours to 350 hours and the 430 hours freed by that change would be reallocated to
maintenance and remonumentation. Motion carried.
County Land Records Funds
Fodroczi referred to correspondence received from Corporation Counsel Greg Timmerman regarding the
Land Records Modernization Funding, dated December 2, 1993. In summary, Corporation Counsel
questioned the equipment items and the salary allocations that were made. The Committee agreed that
staff will have to figure out what are the proper salary allocations before going to the Finance Committee.
Soil Survey Digitizing
Fodroczi explained that this was a project that came up as a part of the budget process. This is a two
stage process. We must first acquire the aerial photography and process it in 1994 and have the actual
digitization done on the soil maps in 1995 for a total cost of $70,000. He was contacted by the State Soil
Conservation Service office and informed that there is additional funding available for these activities to
cut the cost by approximately $12,000. Fodroczi stated if we don't pursue this, we will get pushed back
to the end of the line for another chance at the money and this could delay the project by three or four
years. This will have to be further discussed.
Economic Development Corporation Report
Fodroczi reported that there are three subcommittees. The director's office will be located in the Zoning
area where the County Surveyor's office was to be. The Computer Services department is putting together
costs for a computer system and equipment, either tying into the County's system or having their own
independent system. Oemichen reported the personnel subcommittee has received 70 applications for the
Director position which has been narrowed down to 12 to interview possibly seven or eight of the 12.
They hope to have someone in place by the end of January, 1994. He further noted the most recent
decision the Corporation has made was to deny the Village of North Hudson's request to contribute $2,500
toward the Corporation. The request from the Corporation was approximately $3,900 and the Corporation
turned down the $2,500, stating if the Corporation sets a precedent of accepting half of the contributions
or some percentage, other communities will also want to do that. Discussion on the Cities of New
Richmond and Hammond hiring their own Director.
Discussion and Action on the New Building at the County Fair Grounds
Vice Chairperson Oemichen reviewed the Fair Board's request to the County Board to allow them to do
fund raising for a dairy barn to be constructed at the fair grounds at a cost of $60,000. There was also
discussion to have the Planning Office do a study of the Fair in general. County Board Chairperson Rich
Peterson commented on the importance of continuing the fair for the youth. Discussion on utilizing the
fair ground buildings after the fair is over. Further discussion on knowing what the needs are for a long
range plan. Discussion on supporting the private funding before having a plan in place. After
considerable discussion, no action was taken. The Committee agreed to set up a meeting with the Fair
Board before the next County Board meeting to decide on what recommendation to bring to the County
Board.
The Committee agreed to not go into closed session to do the performance evaluation of the Planning
Director until Chairperson Dorsey and John Krizek can be present.
ZONING BUSINESS CONTINUED
Any Other Business
Nelson presented an invoice for six plat books, payable to St. Croix County 4H. Motion by Boche,
seconded by Menter to approve the invoice for six plat books for the Zoning Office. Motion carried.
Motion by Menter, seconded by Boche to adjourn the meeting at 3:42 p.m. Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted:
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Linda Luckey, Secretary Rosemary Olson,/Recording Secretary
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