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NOTICE OF MEETING AND AGENDA
ST. CROIX COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BOARD
December 21, 2011- 8:30 A.M.
Board Room, St Croix County DHHS Building
1445 N. e Street, New Richmond Wisconsin
L CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. BUSINESS ITEMS
1. Resolution Approving Advisory Referendum Question Relating to County Nursing
Home
IV. ANNOUNCEMENTS & CORRESPONDENCE
V. ADJOURN
DATE OF NEXT MEETING: 01/18/12 at 8:30 A.M.
REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY: Committee Chair and County Administrator
DATE APPROVED: 12/16/2011
A quorum of the St. Croix County Board of Supervisors (County Board) may he present at this meeting. Therefore, this
notice also serves as notice of a meeting of the County Board for the purpose of obtaining information relating to subjects
listed above for use at future County Board Meetings.
12/16/2011
ST. CROIX COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BOARD
December 21, 2011
The St. Croix County Health and Human Services Board met on December 21, 2011 at the St.
Croix County Health and Human Services/Health Center complex.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Esther Wentz, Chair
Leon Berenschot
Frederick Horne
Roger Larson
Linda Luckey
Richard Marzolf
Deb Rasmussen
Alfred Schrank
MEMBERS ABSENT: Dr. Lisa Ramsay
STAFF PRESENT: Fred Johnson, Health and Human Services Director
Cindy Anderson, Nursing Home Administrator
Malva Sirek, Clerical Supervisor
OTHERS PRESENT: Pat Thompson, County Administrator
Heather Wolske, Assistant Corporation Counsel
Kim Dupre, Information Systems Analyst
Sharon Norton-Baumann, County Board member
Roger Rebholz, County Board member
Norm Matzek
Jeff Holmquist, New Richmond News
Chair Wentz called the meeting to order at 8:30 AM noting the meeting was properly and legally
publicized.
NEXT MEETING: The next Health and Human Services Board meeting is scheduled for
Wednesday, January 18, 2012 at 8:30 AM.
RESOLUTION APPROVING ADVISORY REFERENDUM QUESTION RELATING TO THE
COUNTY NURSING HOME: Wentz invited discussion on putting a resolution on the April ballot
to question the taxpayers if tax levy dollars are needed to support the St. Croix Health Center, are
the taxpayers willing to provide the extra funding. A county wide vote was presented in 2008.
Wentz expressed that the Nursing Home is an asset to the county and provides excellent care.
Luckey expressed concern regarding asking a question identical to the question asked in 2008 and
spending $2,000 to $3,000 to do so. Wentz felt the question should be settled once and for all. She
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expressed the residents need to know the Nursing Home will continue and employees need to know
they still have a place to work.
Discussion was held whether a referendum should again be advisory or if it should be binding.
Spring elections usually present advisory referendums; binding referendums are usually presented
in fall elections. It is difficult to have a binding referendum as financial figures would need to be
specific.
It was strongly recommended to clarify that the referendum is requesting to `partially' fund the
Nursing Home. There are no definite budget numbers for 2011, 2012, or 2013 as budgets are
based on projections. Corporation Counsel also included an explanatory statement in the
resolution that additional funding is provided by other sources. In the fiscal year 2012, St. Croix
Health Center is projected to use 1.2% of the total County tax levy of $27,847,925. Board
members indicated confusion over the figures presented in the draft referendum. Wolske
indicated the projected figures were added to the referendum after referendums from other
counties were reviewed and all included budgeted figures. Wolske reported Dunn County held
an advisory referendum in 2008, a binding referendum in 2009, and Jefferson County also held a
binding referendum. Wolske will continue to research other referendums held. Dupre
questioned the sentence structure as it is important to put the number requested at the top and
then give additional information at the end. The levy is what concerns the public. It was
suggested to include that funding will be 1% less than the figures from the previous year, which
is a 50% reduction in total levy projection from the previous year.
Rasmussen questioned if it would be possible to make the referendum more personalized to the
impact on the taxpayer. It is difficult to pinpoint an exact dollar amount per taxpayer as the
budgeted numbers are only projected numbers and we are not asking for a specific amount of tax
levy support as would be done in a binding referendum.
St. Croix County is not mandated to provide a nursing home.
Motion: A motion was introduced by Marzolf, seconded by Schrank,
1) That the draft resolution be amended as follows with `partially' added before the word "fund:"
Starting with line 55 to read as follows: A "yes" vote means you want the County to continue to
operate the St. Croix County nursing home if property tax dollars are needed to ap rtiallX fund its
operation.
Then delete line 56 through 59 and change to: In 2011, the projected amount of the total levy
dollars earmarked for operation of the nursing home was 615,382 (2.2% of the total levy). In 2012,
it is anticipated that $333,002 of the total County level will be needed to partially support the
operation of the County nursing home (1.2% of the total levy). These are projected numbers.
Luckey indicated the resolution implies that the course that the Nursing Home is headed towards is
much better and that is not the case. Marzolf reported Nursing Home staff have conceded huge cuts
in benefits. Norton-Bauman indicated a negative figure of $150,000 to $175,000 for 2011 for the
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Nursing Home was reported at the last Board meeting and more could be needed than what is put in
the resolution. She reported the County is in a contract with the Nursing Home employees for 2012
and expressed concern going to the April election with this referendum as it muddies the waters for
a contract for 2012. The County Board approved contracts for 2012 with the agreement to monitor
expenditures and to negotiate impacts on what settlements would be. Luckey again expressed
concern that the wording in the resolution makes it sound like the Nursing Home is out of the woods
financially and that is not the way it is. She did not agree with the resolution wording. Norton-
Bauman expressed there is no purpose in a referendum in this case if it is advisory and not binding.
It was the consensus of the Board that the resolution should clarify that the referendum pertains to
the County nursing home in New Richmond as the last referendum stated public nursing home and
some taxpayers were confused.
Wentz indicated there is only one department in the County (Register of Deeds) that does not draw
on the County levy and none of the rest of the departments have to fight for their jobs. She wants to
ask the public if the County should stay in the nursing home business.
Rasmussen agreed with the concept of a binding referendum. She indicated by fall there will be
more figures available from the contracts to put figures in the referendum.
Motion: A motion was introduced by Marzolf, seconded by Rasmussen: 2) That the main motion
be amended as follows:
Lines 54-59 in the resolution be amended as follows: A "yes" vote means you want the County to
continue to operate the St. Croix County nursing home if property tax dollars are needed to ap rtiallX
fund its operation.
It is projected for 2012 that the County nursing home budget will require $333,002 of County levy
support for direct operations. That amount is roughly half of the previous year's tax levy budgeted
amount. Note: These are projected numbers.
Also, insert word "partially" before the word "fund" in lines 31, 41, 52, 55, 67, 73. Also insert the
words "St. Croix" in front of the words "county nursing home" throughout resolution.
Thompson indicated final Nursing Home numbers should be available in April when the
referendum would go to the polls. The 1.2% figure is less than the previous year.
Roll call vote on motion 1) above:
Esther Wentz-no
Leon Berenschot-no
Frederick Horne-no
Roger Larson-no
Linda Luckey-no
Richard Marzolf-yes
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Dr. Lisa Ramsay-absent
Deb Rasmussen-no
Alfred Schrank-no
One yes, seven no, one absent, motion failed.
Roll call vote on motion 2) above (motion to amend original motion):
Esther Wentz-yes
Leon Berenschot-yes
Frederick Horne-yes
Roger Larson-no
Linda Luckey-no
Richard Marzolf-yes
Dr. Lisa Ramsay-absent
Deb Rasmussen-no
Alfred Schrank-yes
Five yes, three no, one absent, motion to amend original motion passed.
Motion: A motion was introduced by Berenschot, seconded by Marzolf, and unanimously adopted:
That the Board agrees to add the word `partially' in front of the word "fund" in six locations on the
draft resolution and to change County nursing home to St. Croix County nursing home in the
resolution.
The Board recessed from 9:45 - 10:02 AM.
Motion: A motion was introduced by Horne, seconded by Rasmussen, and approved with Luckey
voting no: That the Board approves the following amended resolution:
RESOLUTION APPROVING ADVISORY REFERENDUM QUESTION
RELATING TO THE COUNTY NURSING HOME
Resolution No.
St. Croix County, Wisconsin
WHEREAS, the future of the St. Croix County Health Center (hereinafter "St. Croix
County nursing home") and its operations continues to be discussed at numerous Health and
Human Services Board and County Board meetings; and
WHEREAS, there are no Wisconsin Statutes that mandate a county must own or operate
a nursing home. If a county does own or operate a nursing home, it must comply with Wisconsin
Administrative Code DHS 132. The St. Croix County nursing home is operated by choice; there
are no "state mandates" to provide nursing home services; and
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WHEREAS, the advisory referendum question: "Should St. Croix County continue to
operate a public nursing home if property tax dollars are needed to fund its operation?" was
asked as a referendum question on the November 4, 2008 election ballot; and
WHEREAS, the official results of that advisory referendum question were 27,428 "yes"
votes and 14,769 "no" votes; and
WHEREAS, the St. Croix County nursing home's budget for 2012 is $5,730,222, which
is approximately 8.2% of the total County budget of $70,037,962; and
WHEREAS, the 2012 St. Croix County nursing home budgeted $333,002 of County tax
levy support for direct operations, which is approximately 1.2% of the total County tax levy of
$27,847,925; and
WHEREAS, the Health and Human Services Board has reviewed various business
planning models and anticipates that continued County tax levy dollars will be needed to
partially fund direct operations in future County budgets; and
WHEREAS, the Health and Human Services Board requests an advisory referendum
question relating to the operation of the St. Croix County nursing home be placed on the April 3,
2012 election ballot so the constituents of St. Croix County can provide updated input; and
WHEREAS, the Health and Human Services Board developed the following question:
Should St. Croix County continue to operate the St. Croix County nursing home if
property tax dollars are needed to partially fund its operations?
and
WHEREAS, Wisconsin Statutes §10.01(2)(c) requires the corporation counsel to prepare
an explanatory statement of the effect of a "yes" or "no" vote; and
WHEREAS, the explanatory statement prepared by corporation counsel reads:
The St. Croix County Board of Supervisors desires public input on the question of
whether or not the county should continue to operate the St. Croix County nursing home
if property tax dollars are needed to partially fund its operation. The result of the vote is
advisory, not binding.
A "yes" vote means you want the County to continue to operate the St. Croix County
nursing home if property tax dollars are needed to partially fund its operation. For 2012,
the St. Croix County nursing home budgeted $333,002 of County levy support for direct
operations, which is approximately 1.2% of the total County tax levy of $27,847,925.
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These are projected numbers. Additional nursing home funding is provided by other
sources.
There are no Wisconsin Statutes that mandate a county must own or operate a nursing
home. If a county does own or operate a nursing home, it must comply with Wisconsin
Administrative Code DHS 132. The County nursing home is operated by choice; there
are no "state mandates" to provide nursing home services.
A "no" vote means you do not want the County to continue to operate the St. Croix
County nursing home if property tax dollars are needed to partially fund its operation.
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the St. Croix County Board of Supervisors that an
advisory referendum be placed on the April 3, 2012 ballot with the following question:
Should St. Croix County continue to operate the St. Croix County nursing home if
property tax dollars are needed to partially fund its operation?
FURTHER, be it resolved that the explanatory statement is approved.
Norm Matzek questioned why residents under Chapter 51 and Chapter 55 care were not included in
the resolution as the County is responsible to care for residents under these placements. The County
would have to find placements for Chapter 51 and Chapter 55 residents to be placed. St. Croix
Health Center accepts residents if the care needs of the residents under Chapter 51 and Chapter 55
can be met. Other nursing homes closely regulate the number of Medicaid clients they accept.
Marzolf recommended inviting Colleen Bates from Eau Claire County to explain the 2008
consequences of Eau Claire County closing their nursing home. After the Eau Claire nursing home
closed it was costing Eau Claire County more money to place these residents than if the residents
had been placed in their own facility. Horne recommended getting the most current numbers for
these costs from Eau Claire County.
By not referencing Chapter 51 and Chapter 55 residents, an important factor of the nursing home is
being left out. The County will always take care of its own.
Wentz asked if there were any other issues to bring before the Board.
Wentz adjourned the meeting.
Time: 10:25 AM
Chair:
Attest:
(Secretary)