HomeMy WebLinkAbout12-30-2014 Ad Hoc Health Center Construction Committee Minutes MEETING MINUTES
AD HOC HEALTH CENTER CONSTRUCTION COMMITTEE
December 30, 2014 2:30 PM
County Board Room-Government Center
County Board Room - 1101 Carmichael Road, Hudson, Wisconsin
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Peterson called the meeting to order at 2:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Attendee Name Organization Title Status Arrived
David Peterson St. Croix County Supervisor Present
Agnes Ring St. Croix County Supervisor Present 2:35 PM
Deb Rasmussen St. Croix County Citizen Present
Roy Sjoberg St. Croix County Supervisor Present 2:35 PM
Daniel Hansen St. Croix County Supervisor Absent
Judy Achterhof St. Croix County Supervisor Present
Shaela Leibfried St. Croix County Supervisor Present
Suzanne Van Mele St. Croix County Citizen Present
Scottie Ard St. Croix County Citizen Present
OTHERS PRESENT: County Board Supervisors Roger Larson and Dave Ostness,
County Administrator Pat Thompson, Facilities Director Jim Elsbury, Health & Human
Services Director Fred Johnson, Finance Director Tabatha Hansen, Health Center
Administrator Sandy Hackenmueller, Human Resource Director Tammy Funk,
Information Technology Director John Allegro, Management Analyst Kristen Ziliak,
Fiscal Manager Beata Haug and Recording Secretary Monica Lucht.
GUESTS PRESENT: Representatives from Horty Elving, Rick Moore and Tu-Anh
Johnson. Representative from Market & Johnson, Kris Hahn. Representative from
WIPFLi, Larry Lester.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. Ad Hoc Health Center Construction Committee - Regular Meeting - Dec 2, 2014 2:30
PM
The minutes of December 2, 2014 were accepted as distributed.
RESULT: ACCEPTED
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None
BUSINESS ITEMS
1. Financial/Budget Report
The Committee reviewed the packet attachment, Building Descriptions, describing the
program for the 50 bed skilled nursing facility, 10 bed dementia crisis stabilization unit
and 40 bed CBRF. Larry Lester of WIPFLi presented the financial proforma for the
program and reviewed future projections of the State of Wisconsin's support for Health
Centers. The current approach to Dementia crisis stabilization across the State of WI was
discussed. Currently, very few facilities have beds designated to provide service to
individuals in need of dementia crisis stabilization. The County's current program
includes a separate 10 bed unit for Dementia crisis stabilization which will be unique in
the area. The committee requested additional modeling information on the dementia unit
from other states if possible.
Finance Director Hansen, reviewed the amount of debt service the Health Center's
program can afford annually ($496,500) and the levy and taxpayer impact of the annual
debt service over and above the $496,500.
Sjoberg asked if any applicants to the Health Center are turned away due to insufficient
funding. Lester response was that no, not at the present time, but in the foreseeable
future. A process the firm has been looking at is when does the aging baby boomers and
increase in the number of people turning 65 affect having to turn people away. We will
reach that number by 2025. Sjoberg also asked if there is a lack of beds in St. Croix
County. Lester answered right now there is a surplus of Nursing Home beds in St. Croix
County currently.
Rick Moore, Architect from Horty Elving reviewed in detail the current projected
program budget of $19,447,899 based on stakeholder input from staff and Health Center
Managers to date as well as the current site plan. Moore answered the committee's
questions about the square footage needs outlined in the program and the proposed site
plan. Moore reviewed there will be higher than expected cost to correct drainage and
grading issues on the site as well as to address the outdated mechanicals in the existing
building. Since the current approved budget is $15,000,000, there was discussion about
design alternatives to reduce price. Moore explained a reduction to $18 million dollars
would require a 10% reduction in the proposed square footage total. To reduce the
budget back down, an attempt would be to save all the programs by reducing square
footage. It may not be possible to save all the programs depending on the budget
reduction amount.
Thompson explained that because the County Board approved a $15,000,000 budget to
date and the current program and design would require a budget of $19,447,889 a
resolution to increase the budget would need to go back to the full County Board.
Motion by Ard, 2nd by Ring to bring this to the County Board of Supervisors, bring
the information as presented today requesting an increase to $20 million dollars for
the completion of this project and with the information that there may be other
funding sources in the form of grants such as CDBG, such as WHEDA, they have to
be explored, but bottom line we would need $20 million dollars.
Motion amended by Ard, 2nd by Ring to propose that information presented today
be brought to the County Board of Supervisors for consideration of the $20 million
dollars which may be needed, and that the County Board of Supervisors would then
respond to this committee with their thoughts. Motion carried, all in favor.
RESULT: APPROVED [UNANIMOUS]
AYES: David Peterson, Agnes Ring, Deb Rasmussen, Roy Sjoberg, Judy
Achterhof, Shaela Leibfried, Suzanne Van Mele, Scottie Ard
ABSENT: Daniel Hansen
2. Design Process Review
Moore addressed the St. Croix County campus space program and gave a brief
presentation explaining the size of the households and cores for fifty residents in the
skilled nursing facility. He explained the common space of the Town Center, which are
spaces shared by all residents and will be accessible to the Community Based Residential
Facility (CBRF). Rehabilitation, therapy/wellness space, administration space, as well as
support spaces for IT and electrical are all shown on the space program and make up
approximately 49,000 square feet. The committee asked questions throughout. Moore
then explained the CBRF space program renovation for a total of approximately 14,000
square feet. The Crisis Dementia Care Unit would be approximately 7,700 square feet.
Total probable building construction cost would be approximately $15,186,322. Moore
explained the contingencies, which would total 15% of the cost to allow for flexibility.
Soft costs have no dollar amount assigned yet. Moore summarized by stating that the
total project cost would be at approximately $19 million dollars.
Thompson asked Moore to take the committee through the preliminary site design.
Thompson clarified that the Crisis Unit is separate due to behavior and asked Lester to
explain the licenses involved. Lester summarized the nine different licenses. The
committee questioned the courtyards and the different entrances into the building saying
that safety is a concern. Sjoberg asked about the memory care in the CBRF building and
if they would have outside areas to walk. Moore addressed their concerns and explained
the different opportunities in the areas off level 1 as possible courtyards. The committee
asked about site issues. Moore explained the slopes and drainage issues, and the walls
that are currently not waterproof. There will be issues he will have to confront.
RESULT: DISCUSSED
3. Project Schedule to Date
The project schedule to date was not discussed.
RESULT: DISCUSSED
4. Stakeholder Communication Report
Thompson asked Hackenmueller to summarize the stakeholders meetings held so far.
Meetings with staff were conducted to incorporate their requests into the space program.
Hackenmueller feels the communication has been good. A meeting with resident
families is scheduled for January 2, 2015. Meetings with the different Health Center
departments will be conducted on January 13, 2015. The committee asked if they would
be able to influence the design before it's finalized.
RESULT: DISCUSSED
5. Construction Bid Update
Market & Johnson had no construction updates to provide.
RESULT: DISCUSSED
ANNOUNCEMENTS & CORRESPONDENCE
ADJOURN
The meeting adjourned at 4:35 p.m.
DATE OF NEXT MEETING - JANUARY 27, 2014 AT 2:30 PM IN HUDSON