HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-27-15 Ad Hoc Health Center Construction Minutes MEETING MINUTES
AD HOC HEALTH CENTER CONSTRUCTION COMMITTEE
March 27, 2015 9:00 AM
County Board Room-Government Center
County Board Room - 1101 Carmichael Road, Hudson, Wisconsin
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Peterson called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.
ROLL CALL
Attendee Name Organization Title Status Arrived
David Peterson St. Croix County Supervisor Present
Agnes Ring St. Croix County Supervisor Present 9:15 AM
Deb Rasmussen St. Croix County Citizen Present
Roy Sjoberg St. Croix County Supervisor Present
Daniel Hansen St. Croix County Supervisor Present
Judy Achterhof St. Croix County Supervisor Present
Shaela Leibfried St. Croix County Supervisor Present
Suzanne Van Mele St. Croix County Citizen Present
Scottie Ard St. Croix County Citizen Present
OTHERS PRESENT: County Board Supervisors Roger Larson, Dr. Christopher Babbit
and Scott Nelson, County Administrator Pat Thompson, Facilities Director Jim Elsbury,
Health Center Administrator Sandy Hackenmueller, Corporation Counsel Scott Cox,
Management Analyst Kristen Ziliak, Assistant Finance Director Bob Mittet and
Recording Secretary Monica Lucht.
GUESTS PRESENT: Representatives from Horty Elving, Rick Moore and Tu-Anh
Johnson. Representatives from Market & Johnson, Kevin Renley.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. Tuesday, February 24, 2015
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Sjoberg handed out article from the State Journal on WI official ramp up efforts to add solar
power to Government Buildings.
BUSINESS ITEMS
1. Design to Date by Horty Elving
Rick Moore from Horty Elving, presented the project design details to date. Updates on
the site plan included adjustments to the parking and not paving the north loop to save
money. The new building will remain at the existing grade of elevation. Also included is
a proposed location for the therapy pool which is currently identified as a project
alternate. A walking path was also added. The existing entrance to the current Health
Center needs to be deconstructed to accommodate the planned new construction. A new
temporary entrance will be created on the lower level. Pricing for the temporary entrance
is being estimated. Dimensions and connection points have also been added to the site
plan. Meetings with the State regarding the renovations in the CBRF indicate corridors
will be allowed to be left open and approval of the proposed bathroom design. Barn red
is recommended as the best exterior color but colors will coordinated with the existing
building's exterior colors. Interior features were reviewed with discussion regarding
pocket doors versus barn doors and handles.
Moore reviewed the projects sustainability planning efforts with Focus on Energy's,
White Group, including type of lighting, condensing boilers, heat recovery, high
efficiency units and walls; all are described in the documents and there are many choices.
Market & Johnson has estimated the cost of geothermal at $640,000. The White Group
estimates a 20 year pay back depending on soil conductivity. To obtain an more accurate
pay back of geothermal, soil borings need to be done at a cost of approximately $15,000.
Discussion about geothermal and solar hot water versus photovoltaic and responsibility
for environmental issues.
Motion by Achterhof, 2nd by Hansen to go ahead with the soil borings for the
possibility of using geothermal heat for an approximate cost of $15,000. Motion
carried.
RESULT: DISCUSSED
2. Budget to Date by Market & Johnson
Kevin Renley of Market & Johnson, presented the design development budget to date.
Bid categories will be divided up based on the work categories. HVAC costs will change
if geothermal is chosen. The list of items removed/cut was reviewed. Roofing costs rose
between the schematic and design development phase because a new roof is needed on
the existing building. Contingency line items are for unanticipated changes and
unknowns. The Construction contingency cannot be reduced pre-construction. Soil
boring costs could be accounted for out of the $100,000 testing line item. Focus on
energy is an estimated value at this time, and sales tax savings numbers are based on
history. Total cost of the project is just over $20 million.
Renley reviewed the cost estimates for the items identified as alternates. Hackenmueller
will check into the pay back for adult daycare. Market and Johnson staff are working on
pricing for solar hot water, but estimate the cost currently at about $21,000. Sjoberg
requested consideration and pricing for solar electric as well.
Thompson asked for a motion approving the design and budget to date. The current
budget overage is a small percentage and can likely be absorbed by contingency savings.
Discussion continued on designing to an institutional code and what is meant by that
given the State' recent criteria.
Motion by Hansen, 2nd by Van Mele to approve the budget and design with the
understanding that it will be shaved down to the parameters set by the County
Board's $20 million budget. Motion amended by Sjoberg, 2nd by Van Mele to
include that solar electric would be included in the parameters. Moore stated that the
$20 million does not include solar, geothermal, adult daycare or the therapy pool. The
cost for these alternates would be in addition to the $20 million. To include them,
something else has to be eliminated. Sjoberg requested that the County Board should be
shown the cost benefits of the alternates and discussion should take place at a future date
on adding geothermal and solar. Market and Johnson staff will have soil boring results
and revised estimates for geothermal by the next meeting. Ard called the question,
requiring a 2/3 vote to end discussion. Peterson, Van Mele and Ard voted yes; Ring,
Sjoberg, Leibfried, Achterhof, Rasmussen and Hansen voted no. Thompson reviewed the
agenda for the March 31st COTW meeting. On April 14th the Health and Human
Services Board will review the design and budget to date and on April 15th the
Administration Committee will consider approving the design and budget to date
followed by consideration of the County Board on May 5th. The bonding resolution will
be presented for consideration at May 5th Administration Committee and County Board
meetings. Thompson stated the motion on the floor is appropriate and gives good
direction. Motion carried.
RESULT: DISCUSSED
3. Regulatory Requirement Update
Hackenmueller met with the Department of Health in Madison, WI to discuss the new
regulatory requirements. Recommendations were given to contact an attorney and work
on proving that the new Nursing Home meets the requirements. An agreement for legal
services was signed with Brian Purtell of DeWitt, Ross & Stevens to represent St. Croix
County with regard to its proposed development of a Community Based Residential
Facility and seeking clarification/determination that the proposed CBRF will be
recognized as a "home and community based setting" for future participation in
Wisconsin Medicaid waiver programs, along with general corporate matters associated
with the pending development. Ring asked if the attorney indicated a likelihood of
obtaining the waiver. Hackenmueller thought Purtell was optimistic. It makes a
significant difference that the facility integrates with the community.
RESULT: DISCUSSED
4. Community Development Block Grant Update
Staff conducted conference calls with Lynn Nelson, Executive Director of West Central
Wisconsin Regional Planning Commission (WCWRPC) for review of the process to
apply for a CDBG. For 2015, applications are due May 22nd with awards announced the
week of August 7th. The maximum award is $500,000. Bidding and actual work on the
application component selected cannot begin until the award is granted and additional
State required environmental assessments are completed. Based on this restriction and
the current project timeline, the application would likely be completed using the
renovation of the existing building project component. Separating the bidding of the
project components would delay the bidding of the renovation component to the Spring
of 2016. The cost to have WCWRPC process the application would be $5,000 and to
assist the County with the monitoring requirements would be $20,000. Thompson stated
that the decision is before the committee if the additional cost is worth the possibility of
receiving the grant. Thompson stated that grant application could instead be made for the
adult daycare and therapy pool alternates. Hansen averaged out the cost versus the grant
money that would be received, and determined the cost outweighed the return. Other
options will need to be explored.
RESULT: DISCUSSED
5. Project Public Relations
Thompson stated that there would just be a general discussion on this item with no action
required. The project is generating discussion in the community and Thompson asked if
members of the committee would assist with the public relations efforts to provide factual
information to the public.
Motion by Hansen, 2nd by Sjoberg to form a public relations subcommittee of the
Ad-Hoc consisting of members that the Chairman will recruit. Motion carried.
Chair Peterson appointed Ard, Sjoberg (who agreed to serve as staff review), Hansen,
Leibfried, Babbitt (who will assist with speaking), Van Mele, Ring (who will assist but
not as a member of the subcommittee), and Larson.
RESULT: DISCUSSED
ANNOUNCEMENTS & CORRESPONDENCE
ADJOURN
The meeting adjourned at 11:38 a.m.
DATE OF NEXT MEETING - APRIL 28, 2015 AT 2:30 PM IN HUDSON