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ST. CROIX COUNTY
NOTICE OF COMMITTEE MEETING
TO: Tom Dorsey,St.Croix County Board Chairperson
FROM: Ron Raymond,Chairperson
COMMITTEE TITLE: Planning,Zoning&Parks
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DATE OF MEETING: Tuesday,January 11,2000
TIME: 9:00 a.m.
LOCATION: St Croix County Government Center
1101 Carmichael Road,Hudson Wi
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
ACTION ON PREVIOUS MINUTES:
DATE OF NEXT MEETING:
1. Park Business
a. Bills and Invoices I,
b. Perch Lake
c. Glen Hills Golf Course
d. Inventory For Update of Glen Hills Facilities
e. Outdoor Recreation Plan
f. Snowmobile Association
g. Park Manager Report
h. Wildwood Trail*
i. Any Other Business
2. Planning Business
a. Bills,Invoices and Revenue Report
b. Development Management Plan&Ordinance
c. Land Information Program*
d. Real Property Lister*
e. Any Other Business
3. Zoning Business
a. Ordinance Discussion-St Croix Riverway and Other Miscellaneous Provisions*-*
AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING
ANNOUNCEMENTS&CORRESPONDENCE
ADJOURNMENT
(This agenda not necessarily presented in this order.)
*Items added or revised for amended agenda.
Submitted by: St.Croix County Planning Department
Date: December 27, 1999
cc: County Board Office News Media/Notice Board
County Clerk Committee Members
AMENDED
ST CROIX COUNTY
NOTICE OF COMMITTEE MEETING
TO: Tom Dorsey,St.Croix County Board Chairperson
FROM: Ron Raymond,Chairperson
COMMITTEE TITLE: Planning,Zoning&Parks
DATE OF MEETING: Tuesday,January 11,2000
TIME: 9:00 a.m.
LOCATION: St Croix County Government Center
1101 Carmichael Road,Hudson Wi
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
ACTION ON PREVIOUS MINUTES:
DATE OF NEXT MEETING:
1. Park Business
a. Bills and Invoices
b. Perch Lake
c. Glen Hills Golf Course
d. Inventory For Update of Glen Hills Facilities
e. Outdoor Recreation Plan
f. Snowmobile Association
g. Park Manager Report
h. Wildwood Trail*
i. Any Other Business
2. Planning Business
a. Bills,Invoices and Revenue Report
b. Development Management Plan&Ordinance
c. Land Information Program*
d. Real Property Lister Report*
e. Any Other Business
AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING
ANNOUNCEMENTS&CORRESPONDENCE
ADJOURNMENT
(This agenda not necessarily presented in this order.)
*Items added or revised for amended agenda.
Submitted by: St.Croix County Planning Department
Date: December 21, 1999
cc: County Board Office News Media/Notice Board
County Clerk Committee Members
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ST. CROIX COUNTY
NOTICE OF COMMITTEE MEETING
TO: Tom Dorsey, St.Croix County Board Chairperson
FROM: Ron Raymond,Chairperson
COMMITTEE TITLE: Planning,Zoning&Parks
DATE OF MEETING: Tuesday,January 11,2000
TIME: 9:00 a.m.
LOCATION: St Croix County Government Center
1101 Carmichael Road,Hudson Wi
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
ACTION ON PREVIOUS MINUTES:
DATE OF NEXT MEETING:
1. Park Business
a. Bills and Invoices
b. Perch Lake
c. Glen Hills Golf Course
d. Inventory For Update of Glen Hills Facilities
e. Outdoor Recreation Plan
f. Snowmobile Association
g. Park Manager Report
h. Any Other Business
2. Planning Business
a. Bills,Invoices and Revenue Report
b. Development Management Plan&Ordinance
c. St Croix Valley Development Design Study
d. Lower St Croix Management Plan
e. Any Other Business
3. Zoning Business
a. Ordinance Discussion-St Croix Riverway and Other Miscellaneous Provisions
AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING
ANNOUNCEMENTS&CORRESPONDENCE
ADJOURNMENT
(This agenda not necessarily presented in this order.)
*Items added or revised for amended agenda.
Submitted by: St.Croix County Planning Department
Date: December 27, 1999
cc: County Board Office News Media/Notice Board
County Clerk Committee Members
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MINUTES
PLANNING,ZONING AND PARKS COMMITTEE
ST. CROIX COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER,HUDSON,WI
JANUARY 11,2000
PRESENT: Chairperson Ron Raymond, Gerald Larson, Dave Hense, Art Jensen and Linda Luckey. Staff.
Dave Fodroczi, Ellen Denzer, Steve Fisher, Joe Grant, Dave Larson and Judy Kahler. Guest:
Donna Seim, Mark Vanasse, Tom Clubb, Wayne Federer, Eunice Post, WDNR and Brian
Adams,National Park Service.
Chairperson Ron Raymond called the meeting to order at 9:10 a.m. Motion by Luckey, seconded by Jensen
to adopt the agenda.Motion carried.
Minutes/Meeting Dates
Motion by Raymond, seconded by Jensen to approve amended minutes of December 21, 1999. The
Committee will individually view a request for rezonement in the Town of Troy. The rezonement hearing
will be held January 12, 2000 at 7:00 p.m. at the Government Center. The County Board is scheduled to
meet on January 20th. That meeting may or may not take place depending on the agenda. A meeting is
scheduled to discuss the status of Homestead Park renovation on January 26, 2000 at 7:00 p.m. This
meeting will take place at the Government Center in the Community Room. The Zoning portion of the
Planning,Zoning and Parks meeting will be held on January 25th at 9:00 a.m.
PARK BUSINESS
Bills and Invoices
Parks Director Joe Grant requested payment for the January bills in the amount of$2,937.02. Motion by
Supervisor Larson, seconded by Supervisor Jensen to approve bills as submitted. Motion carried.
Perch Lake
Word has been received that the Stewardship Grant of $70,000.00 was approved. No word has been
received concerning the Lakes Protection Grant although County Planner Ellen Denzer believes we will
receive word shortly. Several engineering meetings have taken place. Bob Heise will work with Grant
putting wildflowers and prairie grasses in the proper growing areas. A decision to postpone the parking
lot by the visitor center that was part of Phase I was made. It makes more sense to put in lot after the
building is up. Dan Fedderly thinks clearing and grubbing should take place this winter because it is the
proper time to discourage oak wilt. Fedderly is not aware of any permits to start road construction.
Chairman Raymond felt a meeting should be held on the status of the park. That meeting will be held
January 26, at 7:00 p.m. in the Community Room. Grant will coordinate date & time with Fedderly.
Raymond suggested inviting the Town Board to the meeting. Friends of Perch Lake and neighbors will
also be invited to this informative meeting.
Neighbor Tom Clubb is concerned about security. He has filed two trespassing complaints with the
Sheriff s office. Parties have entered his property and he would like the County to put a chain link fence
on park boundary near his property. He stated a surveyor entered his driveway yesterday, and indicated
that another complaint has been filed. Discussion. The security issue will be on the agenda on Jan. 26th.
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"No Hunting" signs were put up during the hunting season by the Parks Department. The Sheriff's office
suggested to Clubb that he put "No trespassing" signs up. Clubb felt it was not his obligation to do so.
Glen Hills Golf Course
Grant reports that little or no activity has taken place since December. Representatives from the Golf
Course were sent to a town meeting to discuss adding on. While the Committee is not against the
expansion of the Glen Hills Golf Course, it is the opinion of the Committee that the golf course needs to
consider purchasing land outside of the boundaries of Glen Hills Park.
Inventory for Update of Glen Hills Facilities
Park Staff completed a safety audit of the playgrounds at Glen Hills Park on December 8ffi. Three areas
were audited, the Group Area, Main Picnic Area and the Campground. Grant further noted none of the
playground equipment has a safety surface underneath it. Grant also pointed out none of the equipment
was designed for use by handicap persons. A handout of that audit and recommendations were given to
the Committee prior to this meeting.
Grant recommended three phases over a period of time. First, to tear out the hazardous equipment.
Second,renovate swing sets at a cost of$9,2000. Better than half of that cost is resurfacing. And thirdly,
install new equipment in three areas at a cost of about $60,000. There maybe some grant monies
available from the Stewardship Grant. Discussion. Supervisor Jensen requested that we not invest any
money without an expert. Parks Director Grant informed the Committee that he has a certificate on
playground safety. Supervisor Larson requested all the hazards removed. Chairman Raymond stated the
Committee has been put on notice that the equipment is a safety concern and the Committee must
respond. Supervisor Hense wants the insurance coverage checked.
Motion by Jensen, seconded by Hense to remove all equipment that is hazardous and equipment will be
replaced when monies are available. Motion carried. Grant was instructed to disable swing sets so they
are non-hazardous.
Discussion was held on the need to inventory Glen Hills Park in the future. Supervisor Hense stated we
must maintain all of the County owned parks. It was strongly suggested that a maintenance plan must be
in place every year for our parks. The total dollars for the renovation should be spaced out over a five-
year period.
Outdoor Recreation Plan
Ellen Denzer and Grant have met a couple of times reviewing the draft of the Outdoor Recreation Plan.
Chairman Raymond would like some changes added to the bicycle language. Planner Denzer would like to
meet with Grant one more time before next meeting of the Planning, Zoning and Parks Committee. Denzer
will have the draft ready for discussion by the next meeting. Changes will be highlighted. Approval for the
Outdoor Recreation Plan will be requested from the Committee in February. Pending approval, the County
Board will see it in March.
Snowmobile Association
Bob and Rick Derrick have the contract for this year's trail grooming. Grant noted the snowmobile trails are
closed at this time. We will have the Sheriff patrol again this year. Grant indicated that the Association may
donate a snowmobile trailer to the Sheriff's office.
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Wildwood Trail
Brief discussion. Grant indicated Pierce County would meet with this County later this month concerning
Wildwood Trail.Bridge number five will be built.Williams Communication requested permission to bury a
fiber optic cable on their right of way parallel to the natural gas line. Committee is agreeable to the request
so long as all legalities are met and trail is restored to original condition.
Park Manager's Report
Proposal for the purchase of a new pick-up was advertised in the newspaper. The 1992 Dodge pick-up will
be sold outright. Grant indicated that Supervisor Hense reviewed the specifications. Grant sent invitations to
dealers. Grant will await replies. Lawn mowers will have to be purchased for the park but will review with
status in March. Park maintenance building went over-budget by $4,068.00. Grant will review cost with
Finance. Chairman Raymond encouraged the meeting to take place. Grant has received some reservations
for next years-camping season already.
ZONING BUSINESS
St Croix Riverway Discussion
Chairman Raymond introduced Eunice Post, WDNR and Brian Adams, National Parks Service to the
Committee. Raymond reviewed the history of the Riverway Ordinance with those present. Raymond stated
that this Committee is not a decision-making Committee, but rather a recommending Committee. Zoning
Director Steve Fisher gave some background on the Riverway issue and presented colored maps identifying
the boundary areas/issues.
Brian Adams from the National Parks Service discussed Congress's involvement in the area north of
Stillwater. Discussion. Adams indicated that the Parks Service can extend boundaries on their own if need
be to assure protection.
The Department of Natural Resources has some issue with the Rice Lake Flats area. The Parks Service will
recommend mean high water mark as the boundary in the Rice Lake Flats area. In the Parks Service's
view,the County is taking a step back if the boundary is reduced.Protection is of national interest.
Eunice Post from Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources stated that Rick Hennegar's letter in 1997
referenced not only DNR,but also the Attorney General's opinion that the County has authority to regulate
Riverway boundaries. Marcia Penner, DNR Attorney, sent a letter disagreeing with Corporation Counsel
Greg Timmerman's opinion that the County Riverway boundaries do not apply.
Eunice Post(DNR) and Brian Adams (Nat'l Pks Serv) ask this Committee to table this issue until March to
give NPS and the Department of Natural Resources time to prepare. Adams will attend the March meeting.
The Committee will send a packet of information to the County Board prior to the meeting.
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PLANNING BUSINESS
Bills and Invoices
Planning Director Dave Fodroczi requested payment in the amount of$587.16 for December bills. Motion
to pay December bills by Supervisor Larson, seconded by Supervisor Hense.Motion carried.
The Committee reviewed the Revenue Report. Fodroczi shortened his presentation for the balance of the
meeting,due to time constraints on the room.
St. Croix County Development Management Plan
Fodroczi reported that a staff work session to organize completion of the zoning ordinance would be held
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today. Staff from Planning and Zoning will meet with Land and Water Conservation to coordinate plan and
ordinance responsibilities of the various departments. Jim Janke will be involved. Supervisor Hense
commended the staff for their hard work.
Land Information Program
Fodroczi reported that the 1999 Grant award notice was about $12,000.00 over the initial projection. We
will use the final amount in the 2000 budget. Dave is working with Steve Fisher and Rod Eslinger of the
Zoning Office on permit software selection process. Fodroczi will have final changes on the draft update of
the Land Information Plan completed by the next meeting. Conversion work for Y2K was completed
before the deadline and had been previously budgeted.
Real Property Lister Report
Fodroczi gave an overview of the processing of 1999 tax statements and related reports. Real Property had
earlier projected a December 10h target date for completion. The final municipality was not completed until C
December 20'h. Problems included late mill rate calculations, late manufacturing values from the
Department of Revenue, printer breakdown for a day and a half, and software corrections. All tax packages
went out in the order they were certified by local treasurers and were accurate. The usual problem of
address changes was noted.The department is now two months backlog of daily work.
Motion to adjourn at 12:23 by Supervisor Larson, seconded by Supervisor Jensen. Motion carried. Meeting
adjourned.
Respectfully submitted:
Judy Kahler,Recording Secretary Gerald Larson, Secretary
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MINUTES
PLANNING,ZONING AND PARKS COMMITTEE
ST. CROIX COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER,HUDSON,WI
JANUARY 11,2000
PRESENT: Chairperson Ron Raymond, Gerald Larson, Dave Hense, Art Jensen and Linda Luckey. Staff:
Dave Fodroczi, Ellen Denzer, Steve Fisher, Joe Grant, Dave Larson and Judy Kahler. Guest:
Donna Seim, Mark Vanasse, Tom Clubb, Wayne Federer, Eunice Post, WDNR and Brian
Adams,National Park Service.
Chairperson Ron Raymond called the meeting to order at 9:10 a.m. Motion by Luckey, seconded by Jensen
to adopt the agenda.Motion carried.
Minutes/Meeting Dates
Motion by Raymond, seconded by Jensen to approve amended minutes of December 21, 1999. The
Committee will individually view a request for rezonement in the Town of Troy. The rezonement hearing
will be held January 12, 2000 at 7:00 p.m. at the Government Center. The County Board is scheduled to
meet on January 20th. That meeting may or may not take place depending on the agenda. A meeting is
scheduled to discuss the status of Homestead Park renovation on January 26, 2000 at 7:00 p.m. This
meeting will take place at the Government Center in the Community Room. The Zoning portion of the
Planning,Zoning and Parks meeting will be held on January 251'at 9:00 a.m.
PARK BUSINESS
Bills and Invoices
Parks Director Joe Grant requested payment for the January bills in the amount of$2,937.02. Motion by
Supervisor Larson, seconded by Supervisor Jensen to approve bills as submitted. Motion carried.
Perch Lake -
Word has been received that the Stewardship Grant of $70,000.00 was approved. No word has been
received concerning the Lakes Protection Grant although County Planner Ellen Denzer believes we will
receive word shortly. Several engineering meetings have taken place. Bob Heise will work with Grant
putting wildflowers and prairie grasses in the proper growing areas. A decision to postpone the parking
lot by the visitor center that was part of Phase I was made. It makes more sense to put in lot after the
building is up. Dan Fedderly thinks clearing and grubbing should take place this winter because it is the
proper time to discourage oak wilt. Fedderly is not aware of any permits to start road construction.
Chairman Raymond felt a meeting should be held on the status of the park. That meeting will be held
January 26, at 7:00 p.m. in the Community Room. Grant will coordinate date & time with Fedderly.
Raymond suggested inviting the Town Board to the meeting. Friends of Perch Lake and neighbors will
also be invited to this informative meeting.
Neighbor Tom Clubb is concerned about security. He has filed two trespassing complaints with the
Sheriff's office. Parties have entered his property and he would like the County to put a chain link fence
on park boundary near his property. He stated a surveyor entered his driveway yesterday, and indicated
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that another complaint has been filed. Discussion. The security issue will be on the agenda on Jan. 26
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"No Hunting" signs were put up during the hunting season by the Parks Department. The Sheriff's office
suggested to Clubb that he put "No trespassing" signs up. Clubb felt it was not his obligation to do so.
Glen Hills Golf Course
Grant reports that little or no activity has taken place since December. Representatives from the Golf
Course were sent to a town meeting to discuss adding on. While the Committee is not against the
expansion of the Glen Hills Golf Course, it is the opinion of the Committee that the golf course needs to
consider purchasing land outside of the boundaries of Glen Hills Park.
Inventory for Update of Glen Hills Facilities
Park Staff completed a safety audit of the playgrounds at Glen Hills Park on December 8t'. Three areas
were audited, the Group Area, Main Picnic Area and the Campground. Grant further noted none of the
playground equipment has a safety surface underneath it. Grant also pointed out none of the equipment
was designed for use by handicap persons. A handout of that audit and recommendations were given to
the Committee prior to this meeting.
Grant recommended three phases over a period of time. First, to tear out the hazardous equipment.
Second,renovate swing sets at a cost of$9,2000. Better than half of that cost is resurfacing. And thirdly,
install new equipment in three areas at a cost of about $60,000. There maybe some grant monies
available from the Stewardship Grant. Discussion. Supervisor Jensen requested that we not invest any
money without an expert. Parks Director Grant informed the Committee that he has a certificate on
playground safety. Supervisor Larson requested all the hazards removed. Chairman Raymond stated the
Committee has been put on notice that the equipment is a safety concern and the Committee must
respond. Supervisor Hense wants the insurance coverage checked.
Motion by Jensen, seconded by Hense to remove all equipment that is hazardous and equipment will be
replaced when monies are available. Motion carried. Grant was instructed to disable swing sets so they
are non-hazardous.
Discussion was held on the need to inventory Glen Hills Park in the future. Supervisor Hense stated we
must maintain all of the County owned parks. It was strongly suggested that a maintenance plan must be
in place every year for our parks. The total dollars for the renovation should be spaced out over a five-
year period.
Outdoor Recreation Plan
Ellen Denzer and Grant have met a couple of times reviewing the draft of the Outdoor Recreation Plan.
Chairman Raymond would like some changes added to the bicycle language. Planner Denzer would like to
meet with Grant one more time before next meeting of the Planning, Zoning and Parks Committee. Denzer
will have the draft ready for discussion by the next meeting. Changes will be highlighted. Approval for the
Outdoor Recreation Plan will be requested from the Committee in February. Pending approval, the County
Board will see it in March.
Snowmobile Association
Bob and Rick Derrick have the contract for this year's trail grooming. Grant noted the snowmobile trails are
closed at this time.We will have the Sheriff patrol again this year. Grant indicated that the Association may
donate a snowmobile trailer to the Sheriff's office.
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Wildwood Trail
Brief discussion. Grant indicated Pierce County would meet with this County later this month concerning
Wildwood Trail.Bridge number five will be built.Williams Communication requested permission to bury a
fiber optic cable on their right of way parallel to the natural gas line. Committee is agreeable to the request
so long as all legalities are met and trail is restored to original condition.
Park Manager's Report
Proposal for the purchase of a new pick-up was advertised in the newspaper. The 1992 Dodge pick-up will
be sold outright. Grant indicated that Supervisor Hense reviewed the specifications. Grant sent invitations to
dealers. Grant will await replies. Lawn mowers will have to be purchased for the park but will review with
status in March. Park maintenance building went over-budget by $4,068.00. Grant will review cost with
Finance. Chairman Raymond encouraged the meeting to take place. Grant has received some reservations
for next years-camping season already.
ZONING BUSINESS
St Croix Riverway Discussion
Chairman Raymond introduced Eunice Post, WDNR and Brian Adams, National Parks Service to the
Committee. Raymond reviewed the history of the Riverway Ordinance with those present. Raymond stated
that this Committee is not a decision-making Committee, but rather a recommending Committee. Zoning
Director Steve Fisher gave some background on the Riverway issue and presented colored maps identifying
the boundary areas/issues.
Brian Adams from the National Parks Service discussed Congress's involvement in the area north of
Stillwater. Discussion. Adams indicated that the Parks Service can extend boundaries on their own if need
be to assure protection.
The Department of Natural Resources has some issue with the Rice Lake Flats area. The Parks Service will
recommend mean high water mark as the boundary in the Rice Lake Flats area. In the Parks Service's
view,the County is taking a step back if the boundary is reduced.Protection is of national interest.
Eunice Post from Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources stated that Rick Hennegar's letter in 1997
referenced not only DNR, but also the Attorney General's opinion that the County has authority to regulate
Riverway boundaries. Marcia Penner, DNR Attorney, sent a letter disagreeing with Corporation Counsel
Greg Timmerman's opinion that the County Riverway boundaries do not apply.
Eunice Post(DNR) and Brian Adams (Nat'l Pks Serv) ask this Committee to table this issue until March to
give NPS and the Department of Natural Resources time to prepare. Adams will attend the March meeting.
The Committee will send a packet of information to the County Board prior to the meeting.
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PLANNING BUSINESS
Bills and Invoices
Planning Director Dave Fodroczi requested payment in the amount of$587.16 for December bills. Motion
to pay December bills by Supervisor Larson, seconded by Supervisor Hense.Motion carried.
The Committee reviewed the Revenue Report. Fodroczi shortened his presentation for the balance of the
meeting, due to time constraints on the room. -
St. Croix County Development Management Plan
Fodroczi reported that a staff work session to organize completion of the zoning ordinance would be held
today. Staff from Planning g and Zoning will meet with Land and Water Conservation to coordinate plan and
ordinance responsibilities of the various departments. Jim Janke will be involved. Supervisor Hense
commended the staff for their hard work.
Land Information Program
Fodroczi reported that the 1999 Grant award notice was about $12,000.00 over the initial projection. We
will use the final amount in the 2000 budget. Dave is working with Steve Fisher and Rod Eslinger of the
Zoning Office on permit software selection process. Fodroczi will have final changes on the draft update of
the Land Information Plan completed by the next meeting. Conversion work for Y2K was completed
before the deadline and had been previously budgeted.
Real Property Lister Report
Fodroczi gave an overview of the processing of 1999 tax statements and related reports. Real Property had
earlier projected a December 10th target date for completion. The final municipality was not completed until
December 20`x'. Problems included late mill rate calculations, late manufacturing values from the
Department of Revenue,printer breakdown for a day and a half, and software corrections. All tax packages
went out in the order they were certified by local treasurers and were accurate. The usual problem of
address changes was noted. The department is now two months backlog of daily work.
Motion to adjourn at 12:23 by Supervisor Larson, seconded by Supervisor Jensen. Motion carried. Meeting
adjourned.
Respectfully submitted:
ahler, ecording Secretary Gerald Larson, Secretary
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